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Balanced to unbalanced board

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  • Messing with this tonight. Its playing into balanced ortho's. the gain is stock at 2 and its just enough, not real loud but sounds just great! yes this is meant for Pre duty, this is on

  • mypasswordis
    mypasswordis

    So I did end up using a female header socket and air wiring the ground. The part number for the 4 pin right angle header is 68016-404hlf. The leds I used are extremely bright orange-red, glad once i c

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    kevin gilmore

    start laying out your own boards and you will know why. there will be a all smd version at some point with these as output buffers  .8 x 1.5 inch  

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9 hours ago, kevin gilmore said:

lm49830 is a chip amp

do you mean opa1632 and its clones, all of which require huge amounts of feedback and have all sorts of common mode dc issues

didn't you use lm49830 for the blackhole buffer?

that was not a buffer. that was a 60 watt + power amp done with semisouth as output devices.. It was pretty nice for a small chip amp.

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Trying to figure out a way to make 6 boards manageable, would like some sockets but don't have any yet>

sockets for .030 pins with .100" spacing?

So the buffers clamp to 18ga wire with normal connectors

to take apart you have to work your way in.

one power connection

stereo in

balanced and buffered out,     pot could go between the white 3 pin connectors

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Maybe some of these Amp receptacles? For 0.0252" pins

649-75915-304LF

That one is a 4 position. Are you trying to find a connector type to connect the buffers to the ubal->bal boards?

I actually think that Kevin should just put the buffers right on the ubal boards. They wouldn't add that much real estate, and if you didn't want to use them, you could just jumper them.

The Phoenix connectors seem to add a bit of real estate on small boards such as these though :)

Edited by Pars

10 minutes ago, Pars said:

I actually think that Kevin should just put the buffers right on the ubal boards.

they are on the smd version, plug in through hole solder  pins

and yes jumper them out, use em' or try other buffers, excellent!

thanks those connectors will work. if not here somewhere

Edited by congo5

unbalanced to unbalanced, gain of 1

unbalanced to balanced, gain of 2

etc

you can adjust the gain by changing the 1300 ohm resistors, or the emitter resistors

up to 10x is possible with no increase in distortion

these days, I don't think there is any reason to add much gain

For a preamp I have the following plan:

input -> (ubal/bal) -> digi.attenuator -> diamond buffer -> output

What value attenuation do I need to use?

the way the board is layed out currently its really input -> attenuator -> ubal/bal -> diamond buffer because there is only one set of servo's

and the attenuator is best at something like 10K

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On 1/29/2017 at 3:18 PM, kevin gilmore said:

the way the board is layed out currently its really input -> attenuator -> ubal/bal -> diamond buffer because there is only one set of servo's

and the attenuator is best at something like 10K

If I wanted to make a preamp with these boards can I omit the attenuator and wire it like this?

For example:

 

Pre.jpg

for the input switch you want to ground the - input for SE inputs

don't need a switch on the output because you can do balanced and unbalanced at the same time

  • Author

Got it...  So it's ok to omit the attenuator then?

  • Author

understood...  My DAC does have a digital volume control but I disable it.  So if this board increases the balanced gain and I feed it to an amp it's multiplied again by whatever gain the amp is at correct?

  • Author

much thanks...  perhaps I will enable attenuation in the DAC when using this as part of a preamp

On 2017/1/30 at 4:18 AM, kevin gilmore said:

the way the board is layed out currently its really input -> attenuator -> ubal/bal -> diamond buffer because there is only one set of servo's

and the attenuator is best at something like 10K

 

is this input + output board + attenuator also the same as here? Or put the attenuator in between the two boards?

https://www.head-case.org/forums/topic/12024-and-now-for-something-completely-different-part-3/?page=6#comment-724017

 

BTW, about these output boards, the orginal one and the newer one, could we wire them to output SE signals?

 

Excuse my ignorance, but isn't this a good scenario where an opamp actually performs well? At minimum it's a more cost effective option. 

so I did something like that with an opa1632, everyone over at amb's picked on me, and in fact it sounded like shit. Then Ti released exactly the same thing.

Still sounds like shit. Lots and lots of feedback is why. This discrete thing is pure class A and current sources, and no feedback. except for dc servo sounds so much better

congo5 is testing the surface mount stuff, currently the output buffer blows up due to power over 15v, so will trim the current a bit, the surface mount transistors can only take 150mw. size vs power.  It will run just fine on 15v anyway

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