I had an older shuffle at one point, as a grocery store giveaway/prize thing. It was far too fussy about how it synced, and wouldn't allow multiple computers to sync without first deleting everything loaded from another computer. None of my other ipods ever did that, so I lost interest and gave it to my cousin.

Too bad you never discovered the python script that would sync whatever you drag and dropped with a double click without itunes after being initialized once.

http://shuffle-db.sourceforge.net/

huh. oh well.

not that i'm in the market for a shuffle, but the controls on the cable is completely retarded

Love the storage and form factor, but that control arrangement blows.

Congratulations, you're not the target market

Yikes! Hopefully enough people will express discomfort about the controls in the earbuds stuff to deter apple from trying this in other ipod models....

The cynic in my can't help but wonder why the prices never seem to drop for these devices, yet you can pick up an 8GB thumb drive for like $15 now.

You do know that most things are priced on supply and demand, not cost of parts and markup, right? The answer is, "because they can".

i know. I'm surprised someone else hasnt taken the wind out of its sails tho

Apple doesn't sell commodities, they sell commercial products. Apple spends money on design and core research that commodity producers don't have to. You don't like the apple product, then fine, buy the korean knockoff (or whatever other product you want).

i know. I'm surprised someone else hasnt taken the wind out of its sails tho

They have, there are hundreds of other mp3 players that do exactly what you want. For some weird reason, apple keeps outselling them. It must be that their products provide something the others don't.

What are the differences between commodities and commercial products?

Apple doesn't sell commodities, they sell commercial products. Apple spends money on design and core research that commodity producers don't have to. You don't like the apple product, then fine, buy the korean knockoff (or whatever other product you want).

They have, there are hundreds of other mp3 players that do exactly what you want. For some weird reason, apple keeps outselling them. It must be that their products provide something the others don't.

lol I didnt mean to poke the bear....lets all remain calm. They're just commercial products...

Wonder when the first giant LOD mod will arrive.

They have, there are hundreds of other mp3 players that do exactly what you want. For some weird reason, apple keeps outselling them. It must be that their products provide something the others don't.

better user experience

It must be that their products provide something the others don't.

Chicks will dig you and men will want to be you.

Hopefully this buttonless feature moves on to the rest of the ipod line too. Or maybe one button will be all it needs.

Or maybe one button will be all it needs.

They will start coming with one primary button, plus a Control button that you have to hold down to make the first button do something different.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0Gzq-QEt0s

iPodNN | New Shuffle to need adapter for third-party output

It must be that their products provide something the others don't.

I can hide it in the crack of my ass?

No, I didn't...

New version of iTunes released to support the new shuffle. One bit of the release notes that may interest folks here: "You will enjoy noticeable improvements when working with large libraries."

The new version of iTunes is indeed faster with large libraries, at least for me.

Apple: How the iPod Shuffle VoiceOver Works

interesting

iPod Shuffle 3rd Generation First Look

The innards... kinda neat.

Wow, ordered the refurb silver Shuffle for $39 on Wednesday, used the free shipping option and it arrived today! I'll get it loaded up and it'll be ready for my ski trip this weekend. Kick ass!