June 26, 201313 yr comment_584969 A great quote: "Designed from the ground up, every aspect of the Cardas EM5813 Ear Speakers is built to mirror the human hearing system. Cardas Ear Speakers are efficient, natural, musical, and are the result of years of meticulous design by George Cardas." I wish they would have just been honest and talk about who OEM'ed these. I don't want George Cardas learning IEM design for these things -- what would lead me believe he would get it right the first time? Edited June 26, 201313 yr by Sherwood Report
June 26, 201313 yr comment_584971 Hopefully Tyll will get a set of these to circulate through the IF framily for impressions. They're probably late enough to the game that they're going to have a hard time competing unless it's a pretty spectacular debut at a low price point. Report
June 26, 201313 yr comment_584972 Looks like the ones Tyll had at RMAF a couple of years ago when he introduced us to someone from Cardas that was showing them off. Sounded decent to me. I wouldn't be able to compare them to their competitors as I have not listened to many universals in a while but I would be happy with what I heard in Colorado. Report
June 26, 201313 yr comment_584976 Measurements are on Headroom: http://www.headphone.com/headphones/cardas-em5813-ear-speakers-model-1.php I agree with Headphoneaddict...."meh" Report
June 26, 201313 yr comment_584982 Looks like the ones Tyll had at RMAF a couple of years ago when he introduced us to someone from Cardas that was showing them off. Sounded decent to me. I wouldn't be able to compare them to their competitors as I have not listened to many universals in a while but I would be happy with what I heard in Colorado. I was remembering that sample also, and it was fine but not earth shattering, but it has been so long that they've probably finger-fucked them to death. My thought is that Cardas has such a recognizable name in audio that non-headphone-audiophiles will pick them on that basis. Report
June 26, 201313 yr comment_584985 Hopefully Tyll will get a set of these to circulate through the IF framily for impressions. They're already off to Joker for consideration. The best iteration of these I heard were at RMAF a couple of years ago. The current ones aren't quite as good to my ears, but decent. My biggest gripe is that I don't think George has really understood how and why people need headphones. It's strongly based on ergonomics. Unfortunately the EM5813 is not ergonomically correct for what IEMs are typically designed to do. The 5813 is heavy; comes with only two ear-tips both the same size (one has a hole in it to tune the bass lower), and both too big for me; they're heavy; they don't isolate particularly well; and the cables are too thick and heavy. Basically they're not very useful for what most want IEMs for. If, however, you just want to use them at your desk, I'd say they're okay...but then why not use a regular over-ear headphone. I wish they would have just been honest and talk about who OEM'ed these. I don't want George Cardas learning IEM design for these things -- what would lead me believe he would get it right the first time? No, George really did design these from the ground up, as best as I can tell. Report
June 27, 201313 yr comment_585159 No, George really did design these from the ground up, as best as I can tell. That is surprising. All the better, then, as I don't need anything else in my home based on the golden ratio. Report
June 27, 201313 yr comment_585169 Well, based on the information posted in this thread color me seriously uninterested. Report
June 27, 201313 yr comment_585179 I saw ear speakers without really looking at the thread title and got little excited that k1000 was being resurrected. Report
June 27, 201313 yr comment_585285 Well, based on the information posted in this thread color me seriously uninterested. x2. I have found that I like his cables a lot, though at used prices only. He/they should stick to that IMO. Report
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