Only US$37,950 at your friendly MSB purveyor of fine products. Roll up, roll up, get yours now.

http://www.msbtech.com/products/headphone.php?Page=../index

only $37950. nice!

...and that signal to noise ratio.  Not possible in the universe and nothing can measure that low but amazing none the less... 

I thought we already went over this in ...February?  April?

Yup...

10 hours ago, spritzer said:

...and that signal to noise ratio.  Not possible in the universe and nothing can measure that low but amazing none the less... 

and when was the last time YOU measured a $38k amp?

Good point....  "goes off to draw up plans to build a 39k$ amp and then measure it..." 

I'd like to see that.

I would suspect it would have the 5 Meg bias resistorinstalled, and no pixie dust, hens teeth, unicorn tears, snake oil filled capacitors or other exotica such as The Judge power cable from Coconut Audio to obfuscate things...... Right...?

More like solid milled silver housings and shit like that... 

I can't wait for someone to butcher up a new Senn Orpheus so the headphone/earspeaker part could run on this.

Gotta be the bestest of the best......   

I do predict we will see a normally driven HE1 at some point.  I've certainly asked for it.. 

Ohh and I did request a quote for the HE1 system.    

1 hour ago, spritzer said:

More like solid milled silver housings and shit like that... 

I should never have told birgir what I was planning on doing to a large chunk of .999 silver

and

forget about the amplifier, show me any measurement system  (audio precision, etc) that can actually measure -170db levels, it does not exist.

and

an amplifier with 60db of gain has to have at a minimum a specific amount of Johnson noise which is at least 50db above those levels, and that's being kind.

Legal fees are expensive. If there is any substance to those earlier stories then that MSB founder is going to need all the lawyering money can buy. 

The gain is indeed the real killer here.  You can't have super low noise and high gain.  Unless you know... magic!! 

sure you can.  but not at room temperature

I have 2 x cryoprobes that run at 25K.  40 to 60db of gain noise figure less than .3db

 

actually this thing has no vol control, you have to add a highhigh end preamp.

2 hours ago, mtoc said:

actually this thing has no vol control, you have to add a highhigh end preamp.

i'll adjust the volume in iTunes

That's always the best way.  Naturally using the line out as we don't need to fancy dac's!! 

.... and here I thought the laws of nature could be circumvented with advanced technology - they do it in every episode of Star Trek. 

Well, as long as there is only one defiance/negation per episode, otherwise it comes out like Flying High. (Leslie Nielson, you scientist)....  

Anyone hear seen the post at HF about the MSB Electrostatic amp? I think it was in the MSB Select DAC thread. Sounds like the guy who heard it compared to the BHSE found it wanting...

1 hour ago, astrostar59 said:

Anyone hear seen the post at HF about the MSB Electrostatic amp? I think it was in the MSB Select DAC thread. Sounds like the guy who heard it compared to the BHSE found it wanting...

No surprises there. MSB are a DAC company - however great their DACs might be, they are very unlikely to nail an electrostatic amp on the first try, regardless of how a large a price tag they stick on it.

Then again, I think it hardly matters. If you have the cash to throw at a Select II DAC, the headphone amp is pocket change. I bet MSB will sell enough to make them happy. The fact that it might suck compared to the BHSE or KGSSHV Carbon won't bother them one bit.