Dan, maybe you don't think so but I do agree that there is certainly a point of predatory pricing. I'm not sure Mikhail is there (or Ray for that matter) but both seem to like to push the bounds of what would be considered the typical industry markup. I don't begrudge either really, except in the case of Mikhail where service and quality clearly are falling out of line with price. Like or dislike Ray, he bends over backwards for his customers and provides top notch service.