So, would it be possible to have the gain lowered on a Pico so those with IEM's can enjoy more of the amps sonic characteristics? I would also like to have more volume control for IEM's. What I have gathered from home amplifiers (ex. Macintosh) is that the less gain and more volume or (the other way around) really has a dif effect on sound. Is it possible to change this or is the gain set in stone? I really think you can get a better taste of the sound of a headphone amp When the gain is set propperly for your headphones. Witha portable like Pico, I think users will usually use the same headphone.

Way back 7-8 years ago, the META42 and penguin builders always asked what HP you would be using for this reason.

So, would it be possible to have the gain lowered on a Pico so those with IEM's can enjoy more of the amps sonic characteristics? I would also like to have more volume control for IEM's. What I have gathered from home amplifiers (ex. Macintosh) is that the less gain and more volume or (the other way around) really has a dif effect on sound. Is it possible to change this or is the gain set in stone? I really think you can get a better taste of the sound of a headphone amp When the gain is set propperly for your headphones. Witha portable like Pico, I think users will usually use the same headphone.

Way back 7-8 years ago, the META42 and penguin builders always asked what HP you would be using for this reason.

sounds pretty impossible to me...

The kludgey solution would be to simply put an impedance adapter on the output (like the Ety ER4s cable) which would effectively lower the gain.

I honestly don't know what the low-gain is on the Pico but it's probably more of an issue with its DAC having a proper 2V output which is more than double something like an Ipod.

Why? its got to be set sometime. Or the Pot setting so at least there is more play under 9 o'clock.

Unless it is at the lowest it could go.

Hopefully someone can have an explanation (or answer) instead of a guess.

I should clarify, the Pico amp only. No DAC.

Why? its got to be set sometime. Or the Pot setting so at least there is more play under 9 o'clock.

Unless it is at the lowest it could go.

Hopefully someone can have an explanation (or answer) instead of a guess.

It's set as low as it can go.

So, would it be possible to have the gain lowered on a Pico so those with IEM's can enjoy more of the amps sonic characteristics?

do you own a Pico? I didn't see your screen name on the pre-order list. If so, then contact Justin... he offers good support for his products.

I haven't heard anyone complain about the volume when using line in, only from the dac. And even then, not everyone has a problem with it. If you don't already have a pico, give it a shot and see.

It's set as low as it can go.

Yeah, and from what I can find the low gain = 2, which I have a hard time believing doesn't allow for much adjustability.

To the OP: what are you using for a source?

[edit]Frack, does the OP not even own one?

If you don't already have a pico, give it a shot and see.

Yeah thats good advice, Headamp does have a return policy so if it doesn't work out just send it back for a full refund.

Frack, does the OP not even own one?

I have a portable amp set to unity gain (not a Pico) and I only get to 9:00 (starting at 7:00) for most things with my E500. IEMs are more sensative than full sized cans and you're not going to get that far along the pot swipe with any portable amp without an impedance adapter.

I have a portable amp set to unity gain (not a Pico) and I only get to 9:00 (starting at 7:00) for most things with my E500. IEMs are more sensative than full sized cans and you're not going to get that far along the pot swipe with any portable amp without an impedance adapter.

It's also worth noting that the output level of any amp will be directly proportional to the input signal strength. So if you're using 1V source or a 4V source it absolutely makes a difference.

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Is that a pancake on the bunny's head?

heck yeah it is

heck yeah it is

It hops like a bunny, but looks more like a guinea pig.

It's also worth noting that the output level of any amp will be directly proportional to the input signal strength. So if you're using 1V source or a 4V source it absolutely makes a difference.

Yeah that's true.... with an iPod you'll get more headroom than say a dedicated CD player or a DAC like the one in the Pico.

If low gain is all you want and amplifier only, get a RSA Tomahawk. The low gain setting is a gain of Zero. Can't get much lower than that.

I had plenty of volume range with the Tomahawk with IEM's.

-Ed

Don't all amplifiers have a gain setting of zero (I.E. off)?

Don't all amplifiers have a gain setting of zero (I.E. off)?

Doesnt a gain of zero just mean no amplification, not off?

Doesnt a gain of zero just mean no amplification, not off?

1 is unity or no gain. 0 is no signal. X * GAIN = Y

I believe a gain of 1 is no amplification... a gain of 0 is undefined??? or off...

Doesnt a gain of zero just mean no amplification, not off?

I'm pretty sure that Dusty was being funny and that it was understood that Ed meant a gain of 1.

me = fail

I'm pretty sure that Dusty was being funny and that it was understood that Ed meant a gain of 1.

Correct.

1 is unity or no gain. 0 is no signal. X * GAIN = Y

Also correct.