Yeah, but you never know what computer you're going to get.

Oh boy. If real, and each Mac model does not have the ability to be discounted 25% (maybe through a combo deal), then that "up to 25% on all macs" claim is false and misleading.

Really depends on what they mean by "all macs" as all of the computers they sell now are mac in one form or another.

Really depends on what they mean by "all macs" as all of the computers they sell now are mac in one form or another.

No it doesn't. As the advertiser, they are responsible for are reasonable consumer interpretations. It certainly is reasonable to interpret "Up to 25% off all macs" as the opportunity to save 25% on each mac in the lineup. Nate's post shows the deception at work here. It's bullshit and Apple shouldn't do it. More appropriate language would be "Up to 25% off selected Macs" or something like it.

Do we even know if the original deal flyer is legit?

No. But I like getting angry.

Ok, will delete and stop complaining. Thanks.

Shelly, run Disk Cleanup; it will delete all of the old installation files including Windows.old

No it doesn't. As the advertiser, they are responsible for are reasonable consumer interpretations. It certainly is reasonable to interpret "Up to 25% off all macs" as the opportunity to save 25% on each mac in the lineup. Nate's post shows the deception at work here. It's bullshit and Apple shouldn't do it. More appropriate language would be "Up to 25% off selected Macs" or something like it.

Not to get too nitpicky, but that wouldn't fix the problem, would it? That only covers it if they don't discount some macs. The problem is that the expectation is not "up to", even though the verbage says that; most consumers would read that as "around but less than or equal to 25% off". Maybe the consumers would get a better idea of the range -- all hypothetically speaking, of course; we'll find out when the actual flyer comes in -- if they said "from 5 to 25% off", that would lower more peoples' expectations appropriately, don't you think?

I recently got an ad from dogfunk.com (Nixon watch reseller) that said "up to 60% off" -- guess what? All the "all black" and the like watches that I like? 0% off. Do I have a case with them as well?

No it doesn't. As the advertiser, they are responsible for are reasonable consumer interpretations. It certainly is reasonable to interpret "Up to 25% off all macs" as the opportunity to save 25% on each mac in the lineup. Nate's post shows the deception at work here. It's bullshit and Apple shouldn't do it. More appropriate language would be "Up to 25% off selected Macs" or something like it.

Good to know, and I agree with you, assuming there's a deception going on here. I keep forgetting the modifiers like "all" function wee bit different in real world than they do in all those logic courses I had to take.

Do we even know if the original deal flyer is legit?

Not yet.

Not to get too nitpicky, but that wouldn't fix the problem, would it? That only covers it if they don't discount some macs. The problem is that the expectation is not "up to", even though the verbage says that; most consumers would read that as "around but less than or equal to 25% off". Maybe the consumers would get a better idea of the range -- all hypothetically speaking, of course; we'll find out when the actual flyer comes in -- if they said "from 5 to 25% off", that would lower more peoples' expectations appropriately, don't you think?

I recently got an ad from dogfunk.com (Nixon watch reseller) that said "up to 60% off" -- guess what? All the "all black" and the like watches that I like? 0% off. Do I have a case with them as well?

Yes, I think "from 5 to 25% off" is better. What was the full text of the ad you received?

I get particularly cranky with Apple because their "discounts" are always so lame.

It means you can buy any time and know you won't miss out on some huge discount next week.

Ah, benevolent Apple looking out for us.

They're obviously looking out for themselves, but its' why they can afford to make good shit. When companies get in the habit of big discounts, people stop buying at anything approaching full price.

Agreed, but then they shouldn't offer discounts at all. The 5% nonsense is insulting. Especially in this climate.

Worse, they shouldn't be implying that they are offering large discounts if they are not.

And they should be giving me free stuff.

What was the full text of the ad you received?

link

Close, but I think leaving out the word "all" changes the whole ballgame. This one I wouldn't object to if clearing copy.

It means you can buy any time and know you won't miss out on some huge discount next week.

Humm...I'll see about that pretty soon since I bought a MacMini two days ago and the delivery date is next monday....

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Smoke Gets In Your Imac: Smoking Near Apple Computers Creates Biohazard, Voids Warranty

Smoke Gets In Your Imac: Smoking Near Apple Computers Creates Biohazard, Voids Warranty

That's bull shit - I'd sue.

That's bull shit - I'd sue.

Typical American attitude that.

I think that question "Why isn't there anything in the warranty about cigarette smoke?" question is bullshit. If you kill your computer by getting tar all over the internals, how is that a manufacturing fault any more than a laptop failing from spilling liquid on it? It's PEBCAK.

it's long been known that smoking is bad for electronics. It makes sense that damage related to smoking is excluded from warranties.