Sorry, no, I didn't mean the Onkyo, I meant the two LOD's that were floating around -- I believe one was Hirsch's, and one was Pete's (PHP Pete). One was an Apple iPod LOD, with RCA's, and the other was a cheap little one-piece third party knockoff with a female mini stereo connector. The Apple one sucked compared to the other one, but I don't know if that was the actual LOD part, or the cable that was attached to them (both had two pieces -- the cable part and the LOD part -- so at least it was the same amount of connections).