deepak Posted June 17, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 It's #220 if you don't mind lol, you guys made me laugh it's not using Cardas cable, allright ? Woah didn't know you were on Head-case, thanks for clearing that up I am so pumped to get these. Maybe these will start to keep me indoors a bit more. Or maybe the near completion of my phono stage will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt Peanuts Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 Woah didn't know you were on Head-case, thanks for clearing that up I am so pumped to get these. Maybe these will start to keep me indoors a bit more. Or maybe the near completion of my phono stage will What phonostage are you getting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepak Posted June 17, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 What phonostage are you getting? I'm working on the Hagerman Bugle: http://www.hagtech.com/bugle.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postjack Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 what cart ya got on that mmf-5? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepak Posted June 17, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 what cart ya got on that mmf-5? Goldring 1012GX, stock cart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron_Dreamer Posted June 24, 2007 Report Share Posted June 24, 2007 Your L3K's in yet, jpak? I just picked up a set yesterday in a trade for my W5000: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepak Posted June 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2007 They should be here Wednesday. 'grats on the leatherheads man! I will be looking forward to your impressions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
909 Posted June 24, 2007 Report Share Posted June 24, 2007 Peter, congrats! They look near perfect. You did good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
granodemostasa Posted June 24, 2007 Report Share Posted June 24, 2007 wow... nice... if you're in Nor Cal anytime, please drop by.... I'd love to hear those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint.panda Posted June 24, 2007 Report Share Posted June 24, 2007 Your L3K's in yet, jpak? I just picked up a set yesterday in a trade for my W5000: How's the synergy with the Apogee? I'm having the same setup in mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt Peanuts Posted June 24, 2007 Report Share Posted June 24, 2007 Congrats on your pair, Iron_Dreamer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron_Dreamer Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 Thanks guys, I'm definitely having fun with them right now. Having only heard them at meets before, I am finding a few surprises. The bass isn't quite as overwhelming as I recall at meets (perhaps due to lower SPL's at home?) and the midrange detail is really surprising me. On a few of my reference tracks I've noticed both substantive music details as well as background noises that I'd never heard any of the past headphones I've owned (SA/W-5000 included). How's the synergy with the Apogee? I'm having the same setup in mind. Granted I haven't heard the L3000 at length in perhaps 18months, so it's hard for me to comment about how they sound in other systems. But there's nothing about how they sound with the Apogee to suggest it's a sub-optimal match. The bass and midrange are glorious, and the treble does its' job. Of course the soundstage isn't remarkable, but that's not what I have an L3000 for. Being that I know you already have and like the Apogee, I don't see much reason to go off it. The question is more one of will the L3000 fit what you're looking for in a headphone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepak Posted June 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 Interesting...I think most people that heard both said the W5000 is more detailed. Unless they're confusing brighter with more detailed (I've noticed this to be a trend). So I guess it's able to handle fast metal pretty well? Unrelated question but do you think the headphone amp in the Apogee is better than the Lavry DA10? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron_Dreamer Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 Yeah, the L3000 has no problem with the generally fast music I like. I'm not having any problems with sounds blurring together. There is a reigon of treble that sticks out a bit more than I recall being the case with the W5000. But it definitely had a hotter upper midrange (which many people mistake for treble), which could be the source of the "more detailed" claims. I'd say the Apogee's headphone amp sounds better, the only real problem I could detect with it was the lack of soundstage depth. Whereas the DA10's could sound a bit dead or dull, depending on the headphones used. Not that either is a world-beater, and I've not compared them directly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint.panda Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 Cool, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepak Posted June 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 But it definitely had a hotter upper midrange (which many people mistake for treble), which could be the source of the "more detailed" claims. Ah yes thats what it was that I remembered about the W5000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recstar24 Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 Ah yes thats what it was that I remembered about the W5000. the W5000 is definitely more fatiguing in the short term than the L3000. I can listen to th L3000 long term and not get annoyed, a miracle indeed. Seriously, its a great can, and I would love to have on if I could afford it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron_Dreamer Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 There is little doubt in my mind now that the L3000 is a better headphone than the W5000 (even balanced). Even though the soundstage is smaller, instruments are definitely more distinct from the L3000. This really surprises me. I also get a stronger sense of contrast between good and not so good recordings. The latter leave me wondering if these headphones are worth their value, while the former show me why they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron_Dreamer Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 Damn edit window, that second latter should read former (as if you couldn't figure that out anyway). Anyway, yeah, they're pretty kickass. I was initially more reserved, but their kickassedness is continuing to come on strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepak Posted June 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 (excuse the artificial lighting, better pictures when I feel like it) These are without a doubt the king of rock. They're on par with the HP-2 on jazz, but bested by the K1000 for most (just my preference) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepak Posted June 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 how do they synergize with the melos? It sounds wonderful with the Melos. I really don't have a single complaint about the midrange (which was my biggest worry) with my Orange Globe tubes. They just sound very balanced, although slightly leaning towards the darker side. But I'll take that over piercing highs. I'll copy and paste a bit more impressions: edit: oh yes this should be mentioned: on my setup the bass is quite balanced. It has a lot of bass impact (kickdrums sound better than all my other headphones including the CD3000) but has less bass than a stock DT770/80pro. The bass is a bit more than the HD650 in quantity (but much tighter and textured). My DAC is quite dynamic, combine that with these headphones and it makes for a very enjoying listen. I'm also very picky about the midrange and these headphones nail it. Electric guitars just sound so sweet and crunchy. I'd take my K1000 over them for female vocals, but male vocals sound great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Chalk Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 Glad you got one without me having to sell you mine....on my setup the bass is quite balanced. It has a lot of bass impact (kickdrums sound better than all my other headphones including the CD3000) but has less bass than a stock DT770/80pro. The bass is a bit more than the HD650 in quantity (but much tighter and textured).I concur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron_Dreamer Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 So just how many of the L3000 run are in the hands of Head-Casers? I'm aware of those owned by myself, jpak, dusty, hirsch (>1 ?), ayt999 (>2 ?), tkam, 909, hungrych...any others? That's about 2% of all the L3000's right here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepak Posted June 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 Unsure if he's registered here or not, but he has a green one Does anyone know how much they sold for new? I read all of chefguru's thread which references the green ones, and everyone keeps mentioning MSRP, but no one actually types the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanoha Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 In terms of currently owning the L3k, I think the list includes: (If you include those who have owned L3ks in the past, the list is almost twice longer) Iron_Dreamer jpak dusty hirsch ayt999 tkam 909 hungrych darkless GoRedwings19 (I haven't seen Mike around in quite a long time; I don't know if he still has them) sasaki zChan Those are the ones I can basically name off the top of my head. But most likely there are more that I'm not aware of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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