Icarium Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Head-Fi: Covering Headphones, Earphones and Portable Audio - View Single Post - REVIEW: Purity Audio K.I.C.A.S. Caliente home headphone amp internal shots via Skylab. Moreover, does it really not suck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beefy Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 Head-Fi: Covering Headphones, Earphones and Portable Audio - View Single Post - REVIEW: Purity Audio K.I.C.A.S. Caliente home headphone amp internal shots via Skylab. Moreover, does it really not suck? There was a teeny bit of discussion about it from here. Possible comparisons to DIY etc; I don't think that there was any real conclusion though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_maher Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 No idea what it sounds like but it certainly appears to be fully discrete to my untrained eye. Not sure what that's worth exactly (being fully discrete) though since I've heard plenty of opamp based designs that sounded great as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBLoudG20 Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 I've heard plenty of opamp based designs that sounded great as well. Bingo. Shitty discrete design is still a shitty design. There is nothing inherently wrong with opamps. It's the same shit as (an equivalent) discrete design, but packed into one IC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_maher Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 Bingo. Shitty discrete design is still a shitty design. There is nothing inherently wrong with opamps. It's the same shit as (an equivalent) discrete design, but packed into one IC. You're not implying that the Purity design is shit though, right? I don't know enough to judge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBLoudG20 Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 You're not implying that the Purity design is shit though, right? I don't know enough to judge. No I'm not, I'm just throwing the argument out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_maher Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 No I'm not, I'm just throwing the argument out there. That's what I figured, but just wanted to be clear before someone read it the wrong way and got all pissy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 Bingo. Shitty discrete design is still a shitty design. There is nothing inherently wrong with opamps. It's the same shit as (an equivalent) discrete design, but packed into one IC. Not always, I know KG's designs could not be made into op-amps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigiPete Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 I think the really good discrete designs do best op amp designs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omendelovitz Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 Not always, I know KG's designs could not be made into op-amps wait a sec, what about Burston Audio's discrete op-amps?:rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cankin Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 That's KG's design?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omendelovitz Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 no, it was a joke - Burston "discrete op-amps" are modules that are dip-8 compatible and supposedly (only seen them on the internet) all discrete. Edit: I didn't notice the reference KG and discrete design when I posted above joke. Please excuse my dumb assed-ness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltron Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 no, it was a joke - Burston "discrete op-amps" are modules that are dip-8 compatible and supposedly (only seen them on the internet) all discrete. Edit: I didn't notice the reference KG and discrete design when I posted above joke. Please excuse my dumb assed-ness. I'm curious why you never come out and say that your amp is a discrete design, given that the direct question has been asked here and on HF. I don't really care one way or the other, but what is the answer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omendelovitz Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 our amps are all discrete design. I thought I had mentioned that somewhere on our website. I think it is also posted on tbonner1's review of our amp on HF. And to answer the OP's question directly - it does not suck;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightWoundsTime Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 And all parents think their children are beautiful....... Somebody's just gonna have to buy one to put this to bed. Don't look at me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fungi Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 Oh come on, you know you have the birthday money to dew eet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltron Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 And all parents think their children are beautiful....... Somebody's just gonna have to buy one to put this to bed. Don't look at me. Didn't you get any birthday checks from any auties or uncles you could put towards a KIKAS Caliente? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBLoudG20 Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 Not always, I know KG's designs could not be made into op-amps I wasn't implying that all circuits can be made into IC's. I was just saying that most(all?) IC's can be made into discrete designs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krrm Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 They certainly can be made into discrete design, but that will not necessarily make it a good idea to do so: From Integrated circuit design - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia "A challenge most critical to analog IC design involves the variability of the individual devices built on the semiconductor chip. Unlike board-level circuit design which permits the designer to select devices that have each been tested and binned according to value, the device values on an IC can vary widely which are uncontrollable by the designer. For example, some IC resistors can vary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBLoudG20 Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 I understand that, and I wasn't arguing that its necessarily a great idea to do in all situations. I was merely stating that they CAN be made into discrete designs. Says the EE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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