nope, that is what I am pissed about!

 

I hate Apple sometimes

I have the sidebar in itunes 12. Just go to playlists.

I've been waiting for these to come out to replace my my MBP that recently died. Now, I'm not sure what I am going to do.

The previous gen quad-core mini isn't all that bad. I expect improvements with the OS upgrade, etc.

I saw that bhphoto is still selling 2012 quad core Minis.  Then I realized that I would need to upgrade the RAM and HD (to a SSD) and that would be close to $1200 after upgrades (and the SSD install looks like a PITA).   Then I decided I might as well get a 21.5 iMac at that price.  Then I decided that by the time I got 16gb of RAM and a 256 SSD HD, I would up to around $1600 so I might as well look at the 27" iMac since I would like to have a larger monitor anyway.  Then after the upgrades to that I decided that I should just get the new 27" Retina 5K iMac... I stopped before getting to the Mac Pro.  

My hackintosh is running great. Installed Yosemite using Clover yesterday. Everything except iMessages works splendidly. I can send and receive SMS but not iMessages. Far more stable than Mavericks which had frequent crashes. No crashes so far. You should investigate the avenue Shelly. For $1600 you are well on your way towards a kickass rig. The initial headache is there in trying to get everything set up but once it is there, it is rock solid. Depends on whether the headache is worth saving the extra $500-$1000. 

Edited October 22, 201411 yr by crappyjones123

I keep thinking about a Hackintosh... but then I realize I don't want a machine that I have to tinker with to get to work right, I just want something that works.  

Unfortunately, no tinkering and works out the box = iMac/Mac Pro. :< 

@Shelly, Just saw this on eBay.

Damn that would make the perfect machine for photo editing were it not for the graphics card. 

Damn that would make the perfect machine for photo editing were it not for the graphics card.

If you are just using LR, you don't need a dedicated GPU as it doesn't use it.

Photoshop would work just fine on that system as well.

^ Probably true, but most Intel integrated GPUs are not supported under current version of Photoshop and some features may not work at all.

https://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/adobe-photoshop-with-open-standards-enhanced-by-intel-hd-and-iris-graphics

 

http://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/system-requirements.html?PID=7667028

 

Adobe disagrees with you.

I didn't remember seeing anything below HD4600 under supported/tested list, but guess I was wrong.

Supported and the thing running smoothly on a 27" monitor are two different things. Windows 8 runs on some really old hardware does not mean it is desirable. I was using my macbook air to feed the 27" monitor with LR/PS which was running the Intel HD 5000. Every single slider movement took ~1 second hence the move to a Hackintosh. 

But you have more than double the CPU power with the mini, correct?

But you have more than double the CPU power with the mini, correct?

Woah! Watch it there fella, you're brandishing some dangerous logic.

Given that it was probably a memory constraint with the air, it hardly seems to matter. But I'm sure crappy's probably right.

But you have more than double the CPU power with the mini, correct?

 

And a weaker graphics card which doesn't help with PS. 

 

Also, benchmark of the 2012 mac mini isn't that much better than the 2013 macbook air, double the CPU power and all. 

 

Source - http://browser.primatelabs.com/mac-benchmarks

You mean if you don't click on the multicore benchmarks?

I suppose the non-retina iMacs aren't going to be refreshed for quite a while.   I  read that the 5th gen Intel processors wouldn't come out until 2016.  If that is true I'm guessing there is no reason to wait before getting a new iMac.  I haven't decided that is what I want to do but it would be nice to have a 27" monitor.  How annoying is a glossy monitor?  (I'm not going to get the 5K.)  

Matte is absolutely mandatory for me.  Also, nothing I have read about the next gen Intel processors made me excited for anything but battery life, which doesn't matter in a desktop.

I am very impressed with my 27" iiMac. It is pretty amazing compared to my older Mac Pro, especially given their prices when new.

Thanks Colin.  

 

Do you have an i5 or i7 Jim? 

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Do you have an i5 or i7 Jim?

i7 or I would have to leave Head-Case.