Sennheiser UK had some in this morning - so it looks as if the HD 700 is now starting to ship.

Wow.

I'm surprised they announced so far ahead of when they were actually ready to launch.

I would guess they have lost a substantial amount of the buzz they had generated at CES by waiting this long.

Any hints WTF is happening with the Amperior then?

Has the design be changed or tweaked since CES?

Any hints WTF is happening with the Amperior then?

Don't recall if it came from John but last I heard they will be an Apple store exclusive for a few months before wide release.

Has the design be changed or tweaked since CES?

Crossing fingers.

I missed them at the show in Tokyo yesterday. There was quite a queue of people waiting to try them. I might have thought to ask Sennheiser for a loaner pair for the show, but we had so much stuff in our shoebox-sized room I doubt we would have had much of a chance to listen to them anyway.

Knowing one aspect of the issues they have with the treble, which is annoyingly common nowadays, an engineer from one company joked to me yesterday that as he is getting older and losing his hearing, he appreciates the stronger treble in various headphones. That might explain much.

Crossing fingers.

Hi Tyll

Are you hoping they change something in the design that you did not like?

curious

Yeah, they were too bright ... but I only listened for a minute. (All I could take.)

Indeed. It has been a while since I've heard such an excruciatingly bright headphone like the HD700, not since the age of DT990 I guess? Man, it makes the HD800's treble sounds like the LCD2 in comparison.

Indeed. It has been a while since I've heard such an excruciatingly bright headphone like the HD700, not since the age of DT990 I guess? Man, it makes the HD800's treble sounds like the LCD2 in comparison.

Did they change the HD700 at the line of scrimmage so to speak? Is this unit a newly released one that you're referring too? If so, then a major fail by Sennheiser.

No idea about the commercial version. The one that I've heard was a pre-release version.

No idea about the commercial version. The one that I've heard was a pre-release version.

There were rumours that Sennheiser delayed the released and went back and made some changes.

I've got a production unit coming in for "evaluation", but I doubt anyone here really cares about it.

I certainly care enough to want to hear your thoughts about it and see your measurements, though not necessarily enough to actually buy one myself. But who knows.

This ^^^

As long as it's not tl;dr

There were rumours that Sennheiser delayed the released and went back and made some changes.

I've got a production unit coming in for "evaluation", but I doubt anyone here really cares about it.

It will be interesting to see the graphs of the pre-release and final versions.

It will be interesting to see the bunfight on the H-F forums over these.

Entertainment is the name of the game....

Then perhaps you're better suited to being over there?

Entertainment is fine. Pathetic drama on the other hand...

It will be interesting to see the graphs of the pre-release and final versions.

Who said I ever had those?

OK. Got these in today. They sound like flashier HD800s with more slightly bass and also more 6k peakage, but with technicalities (speed, clarity, resolution, etc.) between HD650 and HD800. Overall treble is slightly less and HD800. There is also an apparent midrange suckout. Upper mids and treble are not even, so cymbals, high-hats, snares sound really odd and different depending upon recording. Because of the peaks, these cause me hearing damage at normal listening levels (low volume is OK.)

Measurements can be found at the usual places.

OK. Got these in today. They sound like flashier HD800s with more slightly bass and also more 6k peakage, but with technicalities (speed, clarity, resolution, etc.) between HD650 and HD800. Overall treble is slightly less and HD800. There is also an apparent midrange suckout. Upper mids and treble are not even, so cymbals, high-hats, snares sound really odd and different depending upon recording. Because of the peaks, these cause me hearing damage at normal listening levels (low volume is OK.)

Measurements can be found at the usual places.

About 5% of that sounds great.

I found them an appalling joke for their asking price when I tried them at CES. Hopefully for Sennheiser's sake, they've been improved since then. But that's doubtful, especially since they felt about as cheap and flimsy as they sounded poor.