fierce_freak Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 Hi Steve Been out a bit due to the wedding bells and also my renewed obsession with guitar. It's hard to have two expensive hobbies, haha. I've got my 10's now. I think the ESW10 is easily superior to the K701, but that's a preference thing The SR-Lambda is definitely sweet, though. I would have kept those had I not found them a little fatiguing. I do definitely think the 10's are worthy of home listening, though. A bit more listening time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
padam Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Today I could try the ESW10s with the Gilmore Lite, and it does not seem to be a very good match, because sometimes there is too much treble energy(otherwise it has been noticeably improved over using it unamped). I used them with my friend's Meridian 208 CD player because the Pico DAC is still at least a few weeks away. Maybe I should try a Milett Hybrid or something else, what do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slwiser Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Today I could try the ESW10s with the Gilmore Lite, and it does not seem to be a very good match, because sometimes there is too much treble energy(otherwise it has been noticeably improved over using it unamped). I used them with my friend's Meridian 208 CD player because the Pico DAC is still at least a few weeks away. Maybe I should try a Milett Hybrid or something else, what do you think? Yes, I agree that a tube buffer whether a distinct amp or just a buffer setup would do you well even if you placed it between your Lite and the headphone. The TTVJ Millet Hybrid that I have does well with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beefy Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 My Mini Max works very well with the ESW9. I don't imagine it would be awful with the ESW10...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
padam Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 I've read that the APS V3 recable also lessens the treble, so maybe that could also be a solution(I would rather not sell the GLite). In most of the recordings, this problem is not apparent and it sounds amazing, but in some piano music, it can really ruin the experience (especially considering that the piano tone on this headphone is really good). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Currawong Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 I really had trouble liking the ESW10s when I tried them (but the same could be said for all the ATs I've tried). Every AT I've tried sounded to me like it seriously needed better cables and thicker pads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jinp6301 Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 How does a headphone sound like it needs better cables? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomana Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 As you were typing that Jin, I was wondering what headphones sound like IF they need thicker pads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torpedo Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 They just whisper it into your ears "please please please put me a better wire, free me from this crap". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elnero Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 They need thicker wire for fuller sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aardvark baguette Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 According to Patrick82 thicker wires have a warmer, slower sound and thinner wires are faster with more treble energy. I take everything he says as absolute gospel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asr Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 I've read that the APS V3 recable also lessens the treble, so maybe that could also be a solution(I would rather not sell the GLite). And where did you read that? That's not consistent with my experience - the APS V3 on the K701 enhances the treble as opposed to detracting from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil' Knight Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 And where did you read that? That's not consistent with my experience - the APS V3 on the K701 enhances the treble as opposed to detracting from it. From me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asr Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 From me. I think your post speaks for itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knuckledragger Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 I think your post icon speaks for itself. FTFY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
padam Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 Okay, so that means I either have to replace either the headphones or the amp. Question is, which one needs to go. Pity that here in the middle of Europe I have absolutely no chance to hear anything else than what I actually buy. I think I need a closed headphone because most of the time the environment is not noise-free (that's my main problem with the LNS). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Currawong Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 How does a headphone sound like it needs better cables? As you were typing that Jin, I was wondering what headphones sound like IF they need thicker pads. ATs to me, of any headphone I've listened with, sound like I am listening to a tiny speaker on either side of my head, that is, the illusion of soundstage is least present. The soundstage (maybe I should call it "headstage") was collapsed and compressed-sounding, lacking in detail and separation. At the prices the JPN series go for, it was a shock. The cabling feels cheap -- flimsy on the ESW10s and gold paint was flaking off the cheesy wood-and metal plug on the 10VTGs that I tried. Lifting the larger cans off my head slightly seemed to improve things, though, of course, losing the seal then causes other issues. So, overall, I can't help wondering what they'd sound like if they had a higher quality cable and thicker pads, whether the detail would be there and the "soundstage" improve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Currawong Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 I can't help wondering if that pisstake was very deliberately directed at me. Oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Chalk Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 Well, I got to hear a pair of ESW10's recently, but I'm really wishing I had brought along my VTG's, because they are (a) similarly priced (?), and ( similarly sounding. Has anyone compared the two? From memory, they both had a similar sound, but the ESW10's were unamped...I'm wondering which is really better. If they're the same, then there's no point in me getting a pair, as I prefer the closed-ness of the VTG...but damn they sounded better than they had any right to being... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBLoudG20 Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 :'( VTG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
padam Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 I've been thinking...how about the amp section of the Pico? Would I get the same harshness with it as with the GLite? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Chalk Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Listening right now to Blue Man Group straight outta the iPod through ESW10's. Jesus, these sound good. I bet they don't scale for shit. So -- which ones seem to have variance from one to the next, that's the ESW9's, right, not these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grawk Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jinp6301 Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Got the ESW9s today straight off the lappy soundcard. These should not sound this good off a shitty soundcard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fungi Posted February 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Got the ESW9s today straight off the lappy soundcard. These should not sound this good off a shitty soundcard. Oh, but they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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