Voltron Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 Weiss has released a new DAC202 with new D/A not based on the Minerva and integrated headphone amp. $6440 list price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopstretch Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 For the price, that better be a fuckin' OLED touch screen in the middle there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadhead Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 I wonder if it even bothers with a separate amp for the headphones or just uses the output stage for the XLRs. Daniel Weiss loves low output impedance and high voltage swing for his output stages. Apparently you can drive speakers with the output on the DAC1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltron Posted January 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 For the price, that better be a fuckin' OLED touch screen in the middle there. I think not: "LCD display for display of sampling rate, input source, audio level, absolute phase, upsampling filter type, various menu items Rotary encoder with push switch" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltron Posted January 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 I wonder if it even bothers with a separate amp for the headphones or just uses the output stage for the XLRs. Daniel Weiss loves low output impedance and high voltage swing for his output stages. Apparently you can drive speakers with the output on the DAC1. Not sure how to interpret "coarse settings" or the rest of this: "Level control main output: * 4 coarse settings via relays (analog domain), fine setting via rotary encoder (digital domain). * Level control can be defeated for the main output. Level control headphone output: * 4 coarse settings via relays (analog domain, independent from the settings in the main output), fine setting via rotary encoder (digital domain)." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadhead Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 Not sure how to interpret "coarse settings" or the rest of this: "Level control main output: * 4 coarse settings via relays (analog domain), fine setting via rotary encoder (digital domain). * Level control can be defeated for the main output. Level control headphone output: * 4 coarse settings via relays (analog domain, independent from the settings in the main output), fine setting via rotary encoder (digital domain)." Essentially inserting or removing resistors from the signal path (somewhere) to give volume drop. Much like selecting gains in effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltron Posted January 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 Essentially inserting or removing resistors from the signal path (somewhere) to give volume drop. Much like selecting gains in effect. That is what I assumed (gain selecting). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltron Posted January 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 He funny^^ Computer Audiophile thinks the key feature is transparency checker, which doesn't seem to be worth $4K over the DAC2: "Perhaps the most critical feature of this new DAC is the Transparency check (allows to check the bit transparency of a playback chain). Until now it was nearly impossible for most listeners to guarantee they were getting bit perfect playback. This DAC looks to have a built-in mechanism to check for this. I know Daniel talked about doing this last year and I'm elated to see he has implemented it in this product." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt Peanuts Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 for the price, it had better have an ATM in the middle there. It's the DAC's secret feature: Pay-As-You-Listen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepak Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 Doesn't any HDCD DAC basically ensure it's bit perfect by decoding HDCD discs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitz Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 Yeah pretty much. Just tested it with my Squeezebox... if I turn the volume down (digitally) while playing a HDCD rip, it'll cause the DAC to stop recognizing it as a HDCD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Monkey Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 I wonder if high end DAC manufacturers will be able to sustain these prices. This space is only getting more competitive, and the economy is still in the shitter and not likely to come back strong any time soon. $6500 is a lot of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeggy Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Where's the fucking USB socket?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_maher Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Where's the fucking USB socket?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrice Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 ^^That's not going to help the jitter figures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atothex Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 I don't like how there's a stupid face on the left side of the front panel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khaos974 Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 I did not see that stupid face until you told me and now I can't unsee it !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy2001 Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 I don't like how there's a stupid face on the left side of the front panel. They should have put the little Weiss swoosh under the jack, so it looks like a happy face at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Monkey Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 What chipses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepak Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Every Weiss DAC I know of uses delta sigma converters, this probably does too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerung Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 Hi, I am using this DAC with my HD650. I have just bought the HD650. The sound I get is very transparent, with details galore. The sound stage is not in my face and perhaps should not be. As I have not tried the headphone with any other dedicated headphone amp I am very curious to see how the other amps would fare? Thanks,Z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Monkey Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knuckledragger Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 I don't like how there's a stupid face on the left side of the front panel. This. = It must have seen its own sticker price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mypasswordis Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 cyborg 1/4" bj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt Peanuts Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 cyborg 1/4" bj This pretty much guarantees I'll never get this thing (not that I was in a market for one). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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