Thanks guys. And you're absolutely right, CanJam is the perfect place to start. Nate, I would love to build, but it still just isn't feasible with the little guy around these days. I am also frustrated by my lack of casework skills. John, I forgot to mention that the Zana was among those in which I am very interested. I spent some time with it (yours?) briefly at one of the NYC meets last year (I think it was near Tom's setup?).