Dusty Chalk

Good call, great album! Doing similarly (Breakfast in America deluxe edition on Spotify, doubt it sounds as good as MFSL)....

I was thinking that, they do kinda look like backwards HD800's...also, moar blak, so obbvussly betr.

Yeah I was going to say I liked everything I've heard by them, but the cheapest thing I've heard by them was their headphones -- and honestly, it didn't strike my pewter ears as that much less bad than the AKG K550's. So I may have only heard their higher end stuff. I still may try it unless I hear a convincing argument not to.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_2vDOIOCYg This is ackshully very close to Bobby's and mine relationship, except I'd probably be bleeding after the spinny part. He's alright with the slipper impersonation part, though. Ackshully, I don't think I've ever tried 'spinny'... (wanders off)

ah need to hear that Me: Wire, lots and lots of wire -- middle period -- late pre-breakup...I think, this sounds pretty techo, ackshully

Wait, you think he's a dreamer but not aardvark? I mean, we hardly get lossless, and he's already going up to 4K. Yeah, I'm with the others who said they'd settle for unthrottled.

I'm probably going to dig it exactly as much as I expect to, from what I heard of the one track. Ozzy's lyrics weren't the best, but Tony is in top form.

What is science? An empirical study to determine the truth A gob of spit in the eye of god Even more of a religion than your thing All of the above

I stumbled upon a couple links of places that sell DSD files, not sure which have been posted before, so I'll just post all three again if anyone's interested. DSDfile Blue Coast E-Onkyo (anyone read Japanese well enough to tell us exactly what to click?) I bet you're exactly right. I mean, all the DAC manufacturers (in this case DSD DAC manufacturers) pride themselves on their own way of filtering out the ultrasonic noise (amongst everything else), and that's an art. I bet "find out experimentally" is exactly what he did, and the answer is, "it is audible", and that's why he'll never put it up for sale. I had forgotten about that, thanks for reminding me. And by the way, I completely understand and agree with your point about complexity -- there's a difference between complexity and necessary elements of a design. As an unrelated example, I think most people don't understand how oversampling actually works, and that they usually introduce zeros in the data between the actual data and use filters to fill in the signal between the points. (I know I used to. :$ )

...OR DID HE?!?!?...

Wire, The Ideal Copy -- easily my favourite album by them, mostly because it's the first one I heard, and this is one case that familiar breeds ...well...more listening, and therefore more familiarity ackshully. It's damn near perfect, other than "Still Shows", which really isn't that bad, it's just not as great as the rest of the album.

Oooh, we should call it the Mac Pro Keg. Also, it won't cool as well sideways. Unless you're in a wind tunnel. Okay, now that I would be on board with.

Okay, backwards -- okay yes, by comparing to a ladder DAC, I see that you get it. I just wanted to make sure you weren't in your mind still putting a DAC in there somewhere, but the point is, a DSD point-to-point DAC is a lot simpler than a point-to-point ladder PCM DAC. So keyword in your sentence there is "roughly". You don't have to implement 2^n "addition" with the DSD DAC, so it's one less step, and to many, one particularly key less step. A digital filter ... in DSD? Someone (disassociated from Sony) needs to work up the maths for that. And I'm perfectly alright with some mild signal attenuation at 26kHz. I mean really, who cares? Alright, the dog might care. I am of the school that ultrasonic frequency matters, but I am definitely not of the school that ultrasonic frequencies matter much. You can have attenuation at 26kHz with a 2nd order filter and I'd be perfectly happy. Hey, let's go wild and make it with a tunable cutoff frequency.

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Filb -- But see, just because you're talking so much about it tells me you're thinking about it and the next thing you know you're going to try it because being an engineer that's what you do. Don't. Okay that said, but if you do, why does the analog filter need to be high order? All it needs to do is match the increase in noise with the equivalent attenuation. And I think 90% of the appeal to go DACless is the mental exercise/thought experiment/realization that DSD, once filtered, corresponds to the actual signal in the same way that digital amps drive speakers. Yes there's more to it than that, but that's probably why he won't ever put it to market. Sent from mah phone-blet via Tapatalk

Tobias: "...perhaps I should call the Hot Cops and tell them to come up with something more nautically themed..." Michael: "..." Tobias: "Hot Sailors." Michael: "..." Tobias: "Better yet, Hot Sea..." Michael: (snaps fingers) "I...like 'Hot Sailors'." Tobias: (dreamily) "Me too." This show just stays so brilliant. Why on earth was it cancelled! Yes, yes, I know it was uncancelled, but why was it cancelled in the first place!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHbxJtQjORg

Can't you use your powers of insight to convince someone else to want to change the lightbulb or adjust the spot heater...?

Wait, what? He took out all of Trent Reznor's highly stylized production...er...thingies, he took out that little discordancy or dissonance or whatever you want to call it in the opening riff, he played it straight, but most importantly, he lent his voice to it. He made it a Johnny Cash song -- even people that had heard of Nine Inch Nails didn't realize it was a Nine Inch Nails song. Oh, and he took out that huge metal climax like a sucker punch and that insanely long trailing drone. I mean, just play the first couple seconds of both versions.

This one: From the interview with John Siau from Benchmark on the previous page, in which he claims it's impossible to filter out without destroying the purity of the signal (my paraphrase).

Unholy carp!

Obviously. They make little children cry. I suspect the clamping pressure. "...wearing these is like having your head run over..."

Yeah, that's probably what's going to replace (in my mind) the Mac mini that I've been meaning to get since 2007. On the other hand, the iMac's now have 1080p and 1440p screens, so I might just go iMac.

DSD can be converted to analog directly, without a DAC. That's probably what he's doing. And according to the graph, there's plenty of room between the signal proper and the ultrasonic noise to filter it out. I'd be interested in hearing the result. The hard part is actually filtering out the DSD signal alone, without the metadata surrounding it as would probably exist in any digital transfer protocol, especially right off the disk or out of the file, and making sure it's decrypted, although there's probably a point where one can tap the signal somewhere along the chain. I bet it's right there at the DAC, though, lollers.

What? This is the first I heard of this. I thought they had desktop CPU's...(wanders off to confirm)...oh my, you're right. Well that's disappointing.