God I can't wait until one of the HD formats bites the dust. I really want older art movies to come out in high def and that isn't going to happen 'til one of the formats becomes ubiquitous.

God I can't wait until one of the HD formats bites the dust. I really want older art movies to come out in high def and that isn't going to happen 'til one of the formats becomes ubiquitous.

One format dying doesn't make the other one ubiquitous. Having users give a shit is what that'll take. And right now, upscaled DVD is good enough that most people aren't changing, I think. Heck, most people don't even have HDTV yet.

You're right, ubiquitous wasn't the right word. But I do think that when one of the formats goes to the way side then we'll start to see lower budget movies start to move to high def over time.

I don't have HDTV, lol.

I don't have HDTV, lol.

If prices drop even more then I highly recommend it. Having your computer hooked up to a huge TV screen via HDMI is amazing.

If prices drop even more then I highly recommend it. Having your computer hooked up to a huge TV screen via HDMI is amazing.

Yeah, nothing quite like browsing the -case on my 46" Sony

I'll get one when I move out, but for the time being, I'm fine with my 24".

I figure that my A3 will work good as an upconverting DVD player, to keep wear and tear off my PS3. Plus, I can hope for clearance HD-DVD's

I'm there for Clearance HD-DVDs. There were already 40 select HD-DVDs on Amazon for buy one get one free and the HD-DVDs were 19.99 a piece so around $20.00 for 2.

Ok this one just might seal the hd-dvd coffin for good

Ok this one just might seal the hd-dvd coffin for good

Now if they can just get some lower cost Blu-Ray players in the pipe-line that format might actually survive.

Now if they can just get some lower cost Blu-Ray players in the pipe-line that format might actually survive.

What is the cheapest Blu-Ray player now-a-days? Is it still the cheaper/crappier PS3 model at $399?

We should start seeing $299 blu-ray players sometime later this year. Maybe even $199 by the end of the year.

BTW, Todd, how is the PS3 as a Blu-Ray player?

It's likely I'll end up picking one up at some point, especially when more interesting games in Japan becomes available (I love that Blu-ray region coding is same for US and Japan).

I managed to get one of those hd-dvd players at wallmart for $99.

Did not even have to wait in line. Just for chuckles i bought it. Filled

with software bugs like i've never seen before. Won't even play one

of the startrek remasters (which are glorious by the way) all the way

thru, you have to go back to the menu and play it title by title.

Think the blu-ray players are any better, think again. Go to avsforum and

look at all the titles that various players won't play, or do stupid things with.

Its not the price for me, i want something that works right out of the box

and not have to install firmware every week for the next year. Plus some of

the firmware fixes allow some disks to play, and then break others. So if

you want to watch disk A you need this rev of firmware, and this disk you need

a different rev... But evidently you can't go backwards in revisions on most

of the players. The only player that works perfectly is the PS3. Very sad.

By the middle of this year you will see lots of blu-ray players for $299 or less.

In fact you can buy a blu-ray computer drive for that now...

BTW, Todd, how is the PS3 as a Blu-Ray player?

It's likely I'll end up picking one up at some point, especially when more interesting games in Japan becomes available (I love that Blu-ray region coding is same for US and Japan).

I still think it's probably the best blu-ray player around. It has the benefit of having way more processing power than needed and a steady stream of updates if any bugs show up.

I still think it's probably the best blu-ray player around. It has the benefit of having way more processing power than needed and a steady stream of updates if any bugs show up.

Hmm, would the wife actually fall for this?

Can't hurt to try the 40gig version is only $400 and it really doesn't look that out of place in a HT environment

Can't hurt to try the 40gig version is only $400 and it really doesn't look that out of place in a HT environment

I still want to get the 80gig version just so I can still play PS2 games. It would be annoying needing to have both PS2 and PS3 on my TV stand.

Shop on Craigslist for PS3's. I've seen 60Gb PS3's for $300 (I actually talked with them and they were willing to drop it off where I work, so it's not a scam).

Yeah, I found my 60GB ps3 on craigslist for $275 and they dropped it off at my house and let me test it out to make sure it worked. Craigslist can be a great place to find cheep stuck on occasion if you don't mind praying on the desperate.

Yea, the PS3 I was looking at was $300 with an extra controller and 5 games. I decided not to get it because I don't have time to play, and I wasn't interested in the games he had and he wasn't willing to separate it.

Game. Set. Match.

Yea, the PS3 I was looking at was $300 with an extra controller and 5 games. I decided not to get it because I don't have time to play, and I wasn't interested in the games he had and he wasn't willing to separate it.

See around me there isn't much market (out in the woods) so anyone that has one still thinks that it's worth more than it is and wants full value for any games included. One add I looked at today wanted $750 for a PS3 + 8 or 9 games and looked thrashed. I think I'll stick to the waiting game for now.

I'm holding off for the revision 2 PS3 (ala slim PS2, external power brick). They're just too big and garish in their current form.

Nate and reks buy PS3 and UT3. Fragging shall ensue.