ah.. just unplug it before the storms? I don't see why people recommend a surge protector at all...

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I'd rather not have to rely on me as the survival mechanism between thousands of dollars of gear and thousands of volts of electricity.

And I hope luvdunhill wasn't serious.

lots of electrical storms in the south, and during the week I'm never at home.

And call me an audiofool if you will, but I do notice an audible improvement between brickwall and no brickwall

lots of electrical storms in the south, and during the week I'm never at home.

And call me an audiofool if you will, but I do notice an audible improvement between brickwall and no brickwall

meh.. I'd rather just have a big ass isolation transformer and bits of AC filtering and EMI/RFI filtering in each component... if I really cared, I'd get a NEMA class surge protector and be done with it.

And call me an audiofool if you will, but I do notice an audible improvement between brickwall and no brickwall

Sounds like a perfect custom title to me.

spoken like someone who's never lost electronics due to a lightning strike

spoken like someone who's never lost electronics due to a lightning strike

I don't listen to gear these days, I just look at it

i had an ex once whose dad would run around their house when he heard thunder, unplugging everything because he didn't believe in surge protectors. got her in the habit of doing it too and i thought it was the most ridiculous thing when she would phone home during a storm to see if someone there could unplug her shit for her.

i had an ex once whose dad would run around their house when he heard thunder, unplugging everything because he didn't believe in surge protectors. got her in the habit of doing it too and i thought it was the most ridiculous thing when she would phone home during a storm to see if someone there could unplug her shit for her.

You've dated some weirdos Orenthal. Neurotic electricity chick, homeopathic hippy girl...any others?

You've dated some weirdos Orenthal. Neurotic electricity chick, homeopathic hippy girl...any others?

Good chance they're the same girl

i had an ex once whose dad would run around their house when he heard thunder, unplugging everything because he didn't believe in surge protectors. got her in the habit of doing it too and i thought it was the most ridiculous thing when she would phone home during a storm to see if someone there could unplug her shit for her.

was her dad korean? my dad's friend used to do that, but then he got lazy

Yo fan death is totally serial!

Why is this not a suprise to me? But...since this is not my area of expertise, I began to get mesmorized and drunk by this guys vodoo audionomics. I needed you guys to sober me up!

Head Case -- is good strong coffee for the drunken audiophoole

You've dated some weirdos Orenthal. Neurotic electricity chick, homeopathic hippy girl...any others?

not the same girl... but you're right, i've have dated some weirdos...

was her dad korean? my dad's friend used to do that, but then he got lazy

nope, she was korean, but adopted.

My friend had a theory -- women fell in three categories: taken, far away, and crazy. Of course, he married the first one that didn't fall in any of those categories.

So if I've now bought an Audio Aero Capitole SE cd player/pre amp, will have a Balancing Act headphone amp soon enuf(not soon enuf) and ATC 20-2 active speakers...would a power conditioner be a good idea? Is a Power Audio Duet as good one or so, so? Just checkin'

With respect to the Brickwall units, does it matter if you go for the audiophile version or not? Do "isolated receptacles" matter at all?

Huh?

Barry, do you have bad power? Usually that's an old wiring in urban areas problem.

Actually that's a concern. Starkville is an old Southern city. Electricity is all "old school" above ground. Lot's of storms, blinking of lights and power outages. So is that "bad power?" Or more "unreliable power?" What are the factors of bad power? I just really don't want to get all this good gear and compromise it with bad power.

that's unreliable power. Bad power is inconsistent voltage. Especially undervolting. How new is your neighborhood?

Not new. Probably of 1980's origin. how do you determine if your voltage is consistent or not?

Starkville is an old Southern city. Electricity is all "old school" above ground. Lot's of storms, blinking of lights and power outages. So is that "bad power?" Or more "unreliable power?" What are the factors of bad power? I just really don't want to get all this good gear and compromise it with bad power.

At a minimum buy one of these:

Item # PW8R15AUD, 15 Amp, 8 Isolated Receptacle Point of Use Unit for Audio Use on Brick Wall

That'll help with the surge portion of the equation.

If you want to deal with the dips and surges you'll need something a bit more than just a surge/filter product. For that you'll want something more like a power conditioner. There is a fair amount of debate about what the various options do and don't do and while I hesitate to do anything other than give a direct recommendation in this case I can't. I use a MonsterPower product, which probably isn't the best but was reasonably priced and I've never felt like it was doing anything bad.

Do I need both a surge/filter and a power conditioner or is a power conditioner a move up and therefore no longer necessitates the surge/filter too? Also there's a "Power Audio Duet" power conditioner for sale on the Headfye forum. Is that one to consider? Again I really should be cautious down here. Lot's of lightning and such.

All power conditioners that I've seen incorporate a surge protector and filter as well so you wouldn't need both.

No experience with the Duet, sorry.