So a while back even before I got my amp I was excited to own my new headphones and wanted to show them to a friend of mine. He comes over and puts on a song in my itunes, quickly finds the equalizer, turns the Pre-amp setting in iTunes ALL THE WAY up, takes the headphones off and quickly declares that they suck.

Being a nice fellow, I just said ok and shrugged it off. My question to you is where does this kind of ignorance spawn from? How can someone be so stupid to assess sound quality when iTunes is clearly distorting it. Also he was using a 128kbps quality audio that he gave me, and I told him before hand that the quality will suck.

GrRrRRRRRrRRRrRR

Console me fellow head casers.

Your "friend" ---> <--- You

Console me fellow head casers.

Don't worry, be happy.

Try thinking about Steve in his lace underwear. Makes me laugh.

Next time you go out with your friend someplace riding in his car and you guys have to stop a gas station, fill up the tank with diesel.

When he wonders wtf is going on with his car during ignition, tell him his car sucks. Get off car, call cab, go home.

Next time you go out with your friend someplace riding in his car and you guys have to stop a gas station, fill up the tank with diesel.

When he wonders wtf is going on with his car during ignition, tell him his car sucks. Get off car, call cab, go home.

hmmmm that sounds like a great idea mwahahahahha

Am I the only one who thought "D2000" was going to be a euphemism for something else?

Am I the only one who thought "D2000" was going to be a euphemism for something else?

I just saw that.. oops

D2000 ain't even a woody... gotta upgrade to a real one, a la D5000 or D7000, my friend.

yeah, you're not going to find a lot of people that "get" our hobby. It took me about 3 years to tune my ear to higher end gear and I still can't hear what a lot of the stuff that truly great gear can offer such as superior transience bass extension on some cans. My aural memory also is pretty week but improving the more I listen. This is a hobby with the goal of improving your listening skills so you can find more ways to waist money you don't have. Don't expect your tardo friends to get it.

I tihnk a better question might be... since it was not good enough for this guy, what his definition of "good" is lol.

I'm thinking along the lines of skullcandy .

Have him test again. This time, you provide the music and drugs. Maybe hide a shovel.

Don't worry, be happy.

Exactly. At least you can enjoy your tunes with better cans than he's using

yeah, you're not going to find a lot of people that "get" our hobby.

QFT.

Oh, and: bright colors. Red, yellow, orange -- hey, there's a thought, light him on fire.

You guys ready for this.. he wears a bose triport, he likes that crackly terribly enhanced bass.

Edit: And yes i am in the process of building my own cups for the d2000's wooden of course, I own a lathe

Awesome, another one on this forum who got lathe. What's that make, 5 (Nate, Smeggy, Steve, and there was someone else whose screen-name isn't coming to me now...)? Maybe more.

I can see the shirt now:

On the front: I like woodies

On the back: Lathes 4 Eva!

Rather than trying out a cooler-than-thou attitude re your friend, have you considered that he might be on to something? When it comes to the D2000, I agree with his assessment, and yes, I've heard them now a few times, both recabled and stock, and with a few different amps and sources. They suck.

Rather than trying out a cooler-than-thou attitude re your friend, have you considered that he might be on to something? When it comes to the D2000, I agree with his assessment, and yes, I've heard them now a few times, both recabled and stock, and with a few different amps and sources. They suck.

Took 18 posts before this. HC, you've gotten soft on Denons.

The D5000s don't suck. I don't like them, but they're decent closed headphones. The D2000 is just way too flawed in ways I can't tolerate (as opposed to flawed in ways I can). I think the D2000 fills the need for modestly priced, closed, home headphone, and there really isn't much available in that price range, so you're kinda stuck with these or the even worse Ultrasones (the only "popular" headphones I dislike far more than the D2000s are those god-awful HFI-780s horrors). I'd still prefer a decent set of iems if I needed the isolation rather than get the Denons.

Who cares what your friend thinks.

I used to show stuff around, not so much to try and make people envious of my gear but just to show people what really good sound is like. "Listen to this! It's the Omega 2, the best headphone ever made!" Nobody cared. Nobody still does. So I stopped caring too. The less others handle my gear, the better shape it's going to be in.

On the other hand, the few people that actually do care about sound but aren't into the hobby serve as a good reality check. If someone's face lights up when they listen to your rig and you can see the amazement you're on the right track. And often untrained ears will pick up things that your golden audiophile ears have been conditioned to miss.

My best reality check is a friend who is a recording engineer. His rig makes mine look like a joke, but then I don't have the benefit of a mastering studio that lets you borrow EMM Labs sources and doesn't really care if you return them.

Boomana believe me i've read your posts, and you have a huge bias against them, on the opposite spectrum there is Markl, who thinks they are the greatest things ever, who is right? who cares as long as it sounds good to me and it does.

Isn't markl that dude who sold his first R10 to get his business modding Denons off the ground and then it turns out he had another R10 all along?

Isn't markl that dude who sold his first R10 to get his business modding Denons off the ground and then it turns out he had another R10 all along?

Boomana believe me i've read your posts, and you have a huge bias against them, on the opposite spectrum there is Markl, who thinks they are the greatest things ever, who is right? who cares as long as it sounds good to me and it does.

Let's see who I should believe. On one have I have Vicki's input. She's contributed a lot to both HF and HC and not once have I ever seen her do something even slightly shady.

On the other hand we have the fellow who runs "Lootin Audio". This is the same fellow who wrote a scathing review of the HD800 including his most famous words, calling it "slowwwwww". Now there are things to not like about the HD800, but being slow isn't one of them. Then later, probably after seeing how well the HD800 was accepted by his target market, he decided that he really liked the HD800 and it would be perfect if only people bought his high $ cable.

This is a really hard decision to decide which one of these people I trust. I'm going to have to think about it for awhile and get back to you when I decide.