n3rdling Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 Cool. Your set has the o rings replaced right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spritzer Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 ...and the polarity of the drivers fixed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n3rdling Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 What is the default bias for the he60? I wonder if the different bias from the 5 pin stax jack will effect the measurements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopstretch Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 There's already enough blatant bias out there! (OK, it's a random pharmaceutical product, but wouldn't Biggie still look good in one of these caps?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltron Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 I want one! It's ironic and shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spritzer Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 I want one as well... What is the default bias for the he60? I wonder if the different bias from the 5 pin stax jack will effect the measurements. It will. The stock bias is 540V with a 10M ballast resistor. Anything else that that will alter the measurements in unforeseen ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyll Hertsens Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 Hi Guys. I had a little chat with Alex, and I'm going to send his gear back to him on Nov 4th. That gives us two more weeks to mmeasure Stax cans. If anyone has some they'd like measured, it's now or not for a good while. Lemme know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMoney Posted October 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 Anyone got a pair of HE90 or HE60 to send in? I'd love to see how they stand up to the stats Tyll's already measured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyll Hertsens Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 Larry gave me his HE-60 at RMAF to measure. Anyone have an HE-90 they're interested in sending in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyll Hertsens Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 On second thought, lemme ask HeadRoom, they might have one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadphoneAddict Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 (edited) Cool. Your set has the o rings replaced right? Yes. I sent them to Sennheiser summer of 2009 for new drivers, o-rings, ear pads, and headband pad. I bought them from Kees with the Stax plug already done, and a 6" pigtail to let me use the HEV-70 if I wanted. I slso had to replace the PSU at the same time with Sennheiser. They did all the refurb work for about $550 + shipping (incl PSU). [edit iPad auto correct] Edited October 24, 2011 by HeadphoneAddict Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggil Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 if you want to test the Sigma 404 let me know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Buchanan Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 if you want to test the Sigma 404 let me know That would be very interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyll Hertsens Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 if you want to test the Sigma 404 let me know PM sent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
complin Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 (edited) Why is there a need to fix the polarity of the HE60 drivers Spritzer? Whats the best way of doing this? ...and the polarity of the drivers fixed? Edited October 24, 2011 by complin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spritzer Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 Because the drivers are wired out of absolute phase compared to the Stax sets. The HEV70 might be inverting which is why they did this. Best way to fix it is either install the Stax plug properly or use a an adapter that is wired correctly. One thing that should be noted about these phones (HE60 and HE90) is that there is potential to damage the drivers while under testing. The HE90 clearly states in its specs that max input voltage is 1000V P-P which the BHSE will easily reach when fed a high enough input voltage. Now under normal usage this wouldn't be a problem but testing does expose the limits. What is the output voltage of the test gear Tyll? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyll Hertsens Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 Well, the system always regulates to a level equal to 90dB at the ear with the exception of the 100dB THD test where it's 100dB. So I don't know the exact voltage. I don't expect those levels should be a problem though. What do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morphsci Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 I never found any real problem with the absolute phase of the HE-60s. Now if one driver vwas wired out-of-phase with the other, that would have been a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepak Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 if you want to test the Sigma 404 let me know PM sent. Excellent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spritzer Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 Well, the system always regulates to a level equal to 90dB at the ear with the exception of the 100dB THD test where it's 100dB. So I don't know the exact voltage. I don't expect those levels should be a problem though. What do you think? If there is a feedback loop which adjusts the input voltage then it should be fine. The sensitivity of these sets is above 100dB for 100VRMS so they will be pushing 115+dB at their breaking point, well out of range. I never found any real problem with the absolute phase of the HE-60s. Now if one driver vwas wired out-of-phase with the other, that would have been a problem. Some people are more sensitive to this then others but while measuring this will be easily evident. I'm more worried about how the bias and ballast resistors will alter the sound even though the change in bias is relatively tiny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morphsci Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 Some people are more sensitive to this then others but while measuring this will be easily evident. I'm more worried about how the bias and ballast resistors will alter the sound even though the change in bias is relatively tiny. Agreed on both counts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger945 Posted October 25, 2011 Report Share Posted October 25, 2011 If you think the 404LE would be a worthy donor, Tyll. I think it's stock. Purchased here from Birgir, but his FS thread apparently didn't survive the new forum software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screaming oranges Posted October 25, 2011 Report Share Posted October 25, 2011 If you think the 404LE would be a worthy donor, Tyll. I think it's stock. Purchased here from Birgir, but his FS thread apparently didn't survive the new forum software. It's not an issue of whether it is worthy or not, but simply if it is electrostatic. I would even send grandma over to get measured if she was electrostatic. Alas, she is in Nicaragua... oh, and she's also not electrostatic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujamerstand Posted October 25, 2011 Report Share Posted October 25, 2011 It's not an issue of whether it is worthy or not, but simply if it is electrostatic. I would even send grandma over to get measured if she was electrostatic. Alas, she is in Nicaragua... oh, and she's also not electrostatic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyll Hertsens Posted October 25, 2011 Report Share Posted October 25, 2011 I think I already measured a 404LE didn't I? Just checked, yup. No problem measureing a second pair though, if you get it in quickly. PM if interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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