Also have volume control and a mike (!) on the cable. VOIP anyone?

VOIP iPhone anyone?

Seems more like it.

Any links to the new touches?

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New case design, 32GB for $399. 16GB $$299, 8GB $$229. Too bad they can't discover funnest isn't a word.

Time to see what the refurb 1st gens will sell for

Throwing in the Nike+ functionality out of the box is nice if you run.

Throwing in the Nike+ functionality out of the box is nice if you run.

Agreed, but I kept my nano just for that purpose.. the touch is too big, IMO, to run with.

Heh, back when I used to run (a LONG time ago) I used a big clunky cassette walkman .

Color me meh, I don't see anything in the new touch that would motivate me to buy one over what I already have. The speaker would almost assuredly be rendered moot by any sort of functional case and the volume buttons might get lost there as well.

Heh, back when I used to run (a LONG time ago) I used a big clunky cassette walkman .

Heh. I actually just sold my nano, cause I want smaller. I'll prolly grab a cheap shuffle to suit the purpose.

Color me meh, I don't see anything in the new touch that would motivate me to buy one over what I already have. The speaker would almost assuredly be rendered moot by any sort of functional case and the volume buttons might get lost there as well.

Yup. I wasn't in the market no matter what, but seeing as I bought my touch about 3 months ago, I was kinda hoping for a mediocre release like this

I was hoping for 64gb Touch. Oh well. Looks like I might have to get the 32gb for now. And maybe a Nano to replace my gen1.

Yeah, I like this Nano a lot better than the last one. But I'm genetically biased to favor long and thin.

I wish they'd quit farting around with little tweaks like this and get busy writing an app to play video formats other than *.mov or whatever quicktime uses. Having to transcode everything blows.

I was hoping for 64gb Touch.

Same here.

I wish they'd quit farting around with little tweaks like this and get busy writing an app to play video formats other than *.mov or whatever quicktime uses. Having to transcode everything blows.

I'm surprised that there aren't little plug-ins/apps that just does that phone you on iPhon/Touch.

I was really, really, really hoping they would have new ipod classics with more storage space, as opposed to less .

I really hope they aren't planning a gradual phase out of the original, high-volume audio player, cause the competition blows.

And I got me a lot of apple lossless

I would bet that Classic sales have been slow since the introduction of the Touch line and that part of the reason they didn't bump capacity on the Touch at this point was to try and prop up sales of the Classic. Of course they went and dropped the price of the Touches which isn't going to help the matter.

Really loving iTunes 8 grid view. Be interested to hear how well it deals with a really big library, though.

Disappointed that they decided to phase out the 160 gig: I'm already at 111 gig for my 160gig, so 120 gig definitely ain't cutting it. And this is not even encoded in ALAC, only at 192.

Really loving iTunes 8 grid view. Be interested to hear how well it deals with a really big library, though.

Bit annoying, actually. Reminds me of the last interface change iPod went through - looks pretty and neat, but slows down the overall operation without really adding anything functional, unless, of course, you happen to be someone who remembers albums by their covers. Also, it's doing weird things to all my albums that have multiple artists/performers.

Also, it's doing weird things to all my albums that have multiple artists/performers.

Yeah, that's annoying. There must be a way to edit the metadata to collapse those to a single listing of your choice. Sure some bright spark will figure it out within 48 hours.

sure, the album artist field, I figured that one out back with coverflow

Is there anything you don't know?

This looks like good news, too.