Duggeh Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Nobody wants Dougs Mini-Aleph Doug puts Amp on Ebay Auction gets two bids. Winn4r is edward.wills (294 Feedback) His bid placed 02-Dec-08 00:03:27 GMT Auction ended 06-Dec-08 20:15:00 GMT 9th December, Doug asks "When you gonna pay me lol?" edward.wills replies: "Hello, As don't have PayPal and I will never have - all paypal stuff are made by my best friend. I will remember him today to do it asap. If it's too long for you can sell it to the second bidder. It's really not a problem for me. Cheers, edward" Is there any way in which I can go about kicking this guy in the nuts for being a useless, time wasting, irritating little scab? I'm fairly certain that ebay T&C says that placing a winning bid is a contract and you must have means of fulfilling it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmore Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Ebay is sucks, not for general use when everything goes well, but in such situations is. Not sure what they can do, but I was checked by Ebay Benelux some time ago. They asked me to confirm my bank details etc, so, having that they may can kick his account for some penalty, but than again, I doubting big time. My advice to you, send Ebay an e-mail a.s.a.p. and wait... While ago had an dispute about not delivered MP3 player, never got my money back in full, cos the costs were to high, and the seller were never kicked, because she didnt had nuts to be kicked, I guess... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grawk Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 You can mark him as a non-paying shill fuckbag, which impacts his ability to bid on stuff in the future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spritzer Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 You can mark him as a non-paying shill fuckbag, which impacts his ability to bid on stuff in the future Ditto! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aardvark baguette Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 I always pay immediately after auction / buy-it-now. I expect nothing less from everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grawk Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 There are rules tho with ebay, they do have longer than most would like to pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherwood Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 The one and only time I waited the entire allotted period for payment (7 days on ebay US) the guy who bought from me was a total d-bag. Real winners pay right away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aardvark baguette Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Yeah, but rules were made to be ...doh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmore Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Total out of topic... True, but when I want to have more time to pay my Visa bill, which closes around 8 every month, I ask the seller wait a bit to have some credit. Other than that, always pay directly. The one and only time I waited the entire allotted period for payment (7 days on ebay US) the guy who bought from me was a total d-bag. Real winners pay right away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_maher Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Unfortunately you have to give him the 7 days but they you can do as grawk said and paint a big scarlet letter on his ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_maher Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 True, but when I want to have more time to pay my Visa bill, which closes around 8 every month, I ask the seller wait a bit to have some credit. Other than that, always pay directly. And see I operate from the position that I never buy anything that I can't pay for right then and there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmore Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 It is not like I let the seller wait for weeks, just couple of days extra at most. And my way of using CC is maybe differ than yours, cos all my shoppings goes through my bank istead of CC. I do not use Visa on daily base... And see I operate from the position that I never buy anything that I can't pay for right then and there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duggeh Posted December 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 I shall wait it out the 7 days, and then give him the big bad rubber stamp. If he pays in that period, ill be less than fulsome in my feedback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 a "friend" sending the payment = fraud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_maher Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 a "friend" sending the payment = fraud It does smell rather Nigerian, doesn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltron Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 a "friend" sending the payment = fraud If the money is sent to the seller, how is that fraud? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duggeh Posted December 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 One of his feedbacks says he threatened to kill the seller. Must be a Nigerian Warlord. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torpedo Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 No problem, wait those 7 days, start a dispute, let Ebay do his thing, post awful feedback for him, and re-list the amp. I don't think there's much more you can do about it, unless you're willing to contact the second best bidder just in case he's still interested. Maybe Cash Converters gives you more for the amp. Or perhaps you're more lucky selling it on Agon or any of the German Hifi sites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherwood Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 I've tried to get two people to buy your little beauty. Seems it's not in a popular niche at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Chalk Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Unfortunately, he didn't technically break the rules by saying he wasn't going to pay, he put the ball in your court instead. I would give him a deadline -- a reminder that (you're right) bidding on eBay is a contract to pay, and that he has 7 days to do so, if he hasn't paid by the end of the seventh day, you will leave non-paying feedback on his ass, and only then offer a second-chance to the other bidder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 If the money is sent to the seller, how is that fraud? The "friend" who sends the payment can claim it was an unauthorized transaction. He would not be the winner of the eBay auction, and nothing would have been delivered to him. Open and shut case Or the friend is actually a hacked account / stolen CC, but this is less likely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotoriousBIG_PJ Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 When this happens to me, I re-list the auction, and if they do end up paying before the 7 days are up, I cancel the auction. Of course I've never had to cancel the auction. Biggie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torpedo Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Very good point Justin, maybe it's the excuse to contact Ebay before the 7days term, and asking them if that's a fair proposition from the winning bidder. Maybe there's some rule obliging him to pay on his own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duggeh Posted December 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Unfortunately, he didn't technically break the rules by saying he wasn't going to pay, he put the ball in your court instead. I would give him a deadline -- a reminder that (you're right) bidding on eBay is a contract to pay, and that he has 7 days to do so, if he hasn't paid by the end of the seventh day, you will leave non-paying feedback on his ass, and only then offer a second-chance to the other bidder. I have just done so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherwood Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 If he doesn't want Paypal, he doesn't get the privilege of ebay. Simple as that. Unless he pays you from his account you shouldn't accept it. You get refunded fees for a relist on a non-paying bidder, so the only thing you lose is your time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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