n_maher Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 I will stop posting <snip> At least you got that part right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Currawong Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 Waterfall plots: Explains the good bass. I guess they're quick. LCD-2: Qualia 010: 007/717: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dBel84 Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 when do you anticipate getting yours? ..dB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_maher Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 Tyll measured the LCD-2s this morning and the are shockingly good in that regard. Duggeh's headphones were a different story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dBel84 Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 ROFL , but this is excellent news - any impressions Nate? ..dB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torpedo Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 Those waterfalls are probably the best I've ever seen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postjack Posted June 5, 2010 Report Share Posted June 5, 2010 Tyll measured the LCD-2s this morning and the are shockingly good in that regard. Duggeh's headphones were a different story. my understanding was the Duggeh Orthodomes were "#1" in many categories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duggeh Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 I broke all records for the worst easurements ever taken. Excepting Linear impedance. 98% distortion. A dubiosu achievement indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hens Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 haha, wow, the speed on these things is ridiculous... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spritzer Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 Being the worst is kinda like being the best... you are nr. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeggy Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 Holy fucksticks that's a damn fine plot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Currawong Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 I can't help wondering actually if, in these plots, we aren't seeing the effects of the housing resonate below 50 Hz, as there is a steep drop-off before the slow one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dBel84 Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 initial plots were not in cups , so i don't think so ..dB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hens Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 did any one manage to get a listen of these at canjam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duggeh Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 did any one manage to get a listen of these at canjam? No. People weren't allowed to listen to them. They had a 7 foot tall bald black man named Ted to whack your fingers with a cricket bat if you tried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postjack Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 I wanted to listen but Ted just took my credit card and told me I bought two pairs. I asked when I would receive them and he laughed and said "they comin'" which I assume means there is a lead time. unfortunately they never asked for my address. if someone could please ask Ted to contact me via email it would help to assuage my worries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin gilmore Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 I am going to throw this out, i said something to tyll but he was not listening. The lcd2's when he tested them were the only headphones he has tested that are 180 degrees out of phase. I very much doubt that this could have caused any errors in the software, but the phase at about 5khz went to infinity because of this. Someone needs to re-wire the things and do it again. I think he was using an aftermarket cable for the measurements, so maybe one more time with the original cable. Still they are great sounding headphones and i'm going to have to get a set as soon as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabeer Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 I am going to throw this out, i said something to tyll but he was not listening. The lcd2's when he tested them were the only headphones he has tested that are 180 degrees out of phase. I very much doubt that this could have caused any errors in the software, but the phase at about 5khz went to infinity because of this. Someone needs to re-wire the things and do it again. I think he was using an aftermarket cable for the measurements, so maybe one more time with the original cable. Still they are great sounding headphones and i'm going to have to get a set as soon as possible. Hi, Can you tell me what this 180degree outta-phase sounds like please? I just made my own DIY cable using their wiring diagram, and wouldnt want it to have phase issues. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron_Dreamer Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 This makes a lot of sense, KG. Both Edwood and I were hearing some funky imaging/phase issues with the LCD-2's we were demoing. They were still quite fantastic sounding nonetheless, killer considering the price. But the comfort was a bit trying on my noggin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Monkey Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 I can't believe I have to ask this, but are the LCD-2s open or closed? I probably should have listened to something other than the TTVJ amps at CJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron_Dreamer Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 Open. Very, very open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin gilmore Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 OPEN, as in dipole, no damping whatsoever. Same as stax (except for 4070) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwood Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 I am going to throw this out, i said something to tyll but he was not listening. The lcd2's when he tested them were the only headphones he has tested that are 180 degrees out of phase. I very much doubt that this could have caused any errors in the software, but the phase at about 5khz went to infinity because of this. Someone needs to re-wire the things and do it again. I think he was using an aftermarket cable for the measurements, so maybe one more time with the original cable. Still they are great sounding headphones and i'm going to have to get a set as soon as possible. He tested ones with different, non-ALO cables. He was in the middle of testing it, so I was only able to listen to the ALO cabled ones. They made the LCD-2's even more heavy than they already were, and being wired out of phase makes sense with how they sounded to me. The soundstage was messed up, almost inverted, towards the back of my head, and extreme left and right stereo separation making them sound like they needed serious crossfeed. There needs to be a different pair of headband available, it's way too small and far too much clamping pressure. I don't care how much "breaking in" there is, it's made for people with tiny melons. BTW, thanks for all the fine spirits, I think we all enjoyed them a little too much. I was laughing my ass off at Justin at his HeadAmp table with an open bottle of scotch Sunday morning. Someone has to have a picture of that. -Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mypasswordis Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 BTW, thanks for all the fine spirits, I think we all enjoyed them a little too much. x2 Thanks again. And if I am to get in a drinking contest with Tyll whenever we next meet, I better make damn sure to gain some weight just to be able to survive the experience. And yeah, that bottle Justin had was breakfast for at least a few of us. I completely forgot to check if there was damping on the LCD-2, I figured as such since it has somewhat rolled-off treble. But yeah, the impulse and CSD plots were amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwood Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 Did you ever get a hang over at all? LOL, man you and your young liver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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