Just looked, actually both the Utopia and LCD-4 are on the Wall of Fame, which is what Tyll said he was going to do on his blog of June 9, "I will be leaving the Utopia on the WoF, and will add the LCD-4 to the Wall of Fame, though reservedly."
 

My mistake.  What I find pretty impressive about the Utopia is its ability to sound wonderful out of portable DAP.  I don't think the LCD-4 or the HD800 can do that.  

16 minutes ago, purk said:

My mistake.  What I find pretty impressive about the Utopia is its ability to sound wonderful out of portable DAP.  I don't think the LCD-4 or the HD800 can do that.  

That in itself is an outstanding feature to have

6 hours ago, purk said:

My mistake.  What I find pretty impressive about the Utopia is its ability to sound wonderful out of portable DAP.  I don't think the LCD-4 or the HD800 can do that.  

I saw a guy riding a bike while wearing a pair of HD-650, the other day. I wonder what he was driving them with. 

His legs?

5 minutes ago, robm321 said:

His legs?

That seems like a good way to only hear music when you aren't going down hill.

Once you're over 60, it's all downhill       

I thought the downhill start at 40?

Can confirm. Am 47.

1 hour ago, Hopstretch said:

Can confirm. Am 47.

Isn't 47 the new 37... which pushes out your downhill by 3 whole years.

I didn't start really feeling my age 'til around 50.  I credit not having kids.

When you're going downhill, you pick up speed.

At 60 the drop-off is severe.

You realise that gravity is not just a nuisance, but a force to be reckoned with.

Yep, the only jumping you can do is jumping to conclusions.......  else it leads to concussions........    

I'm 60 and don't feel my age. I credit having kids.

8 hours ago, johnwmclean said:

I thought the downhill start at 40?

*phew* I still have 3.5 years, then.

56 minutes ago, EdipisReks1 said:

*phew* I still have 3.5 years, then.

Nah, it starts at 38.

31 minutes ago, purk said:

Nah, it starts at 38.

1.5!

16 hours ago, morphsci said:

I'm 60 and don't feel my age. I credit having kids.

I'll be 69 in less than a month.......   and I never feel my age.

I may feel younger or older at different times, but I'm glad i still feel my pulse...... 

 

TTVJ (and others, I assume) has $1,000 off Utopias with a nominal trade-in.



I wonder if the measurement/QA back and forth with Tyll hurt sales?

^ They have been available new at or below that price since launch if one were to do a little bargaining.

Maybe they've just run out of customers to buy at the 4k price point?

Has to do with Innerfidelity for sure.  I do own the Utopia and find them quite great and yes I didn't pay full price for them.  Still, I think some reviewers have totally forgot to mention how little amplification one actually needed to power the Utopia.  I get excellent results straight out from my Sony NW-ZX100 & ZX2.  Yes, it does scale too but I can't imagine getting anything half decent with hard to drive Orthos such as Hifman HEK, Susvara, or LCD4 or even HD800.  

Adorama is selling the Utopia for $2999 and the Elear for $699 without the trade-in:

https://slickdeals.net/f/10519472-focal-open-headphones-utopia-2999-elear-699-free-shipping?v=1

You can generally get discounts on expensive headphones by asking. I'm assuming Adorama is intentionally burning bridges for a quick gain. I guess that's retail these days.

2 hours ago, justin said:

You can generally get discounts on expensive headphones by asking. I'm assuming Adorama is intentionally burning bridges for a quick gain. I guess that's retail these days.

Justin,

TTYJ and Moon-Audio are doing the same discount in the month of October and no trade-in is required.

Edited September 1, 20179 yr by purk

i don't think that's true

Adorama was removed from selling Audeze a while back because they refused to play by the rules

The rules are mostly about advertised price

edit: looks like adorama put the price back

Edited September 1, 20179 yr by justin