thats why i went after it also, but i fail..

make sure you book mark the intstructions/video or soemthing

There are a bunch of YouTube videos with instructions.

Anyone else getting random emails from AT&T this morning? So far they've suggested that I visit two of their newly remodeled stores... in Michigan. WTF?

I'd just be happy if they could get my phone to consistently accept, you know, phone calls.

Yup, I got 4 weird AT&T emails about 2 different remodelled stores in states I don't go to very often.

I haven't received any. I feel somewhat left out.

I received the emails as well, not the first time for me.

Maybe they tried calling to tell you about the local stores? Oh, wait, n/m.

**BRENT**

Get a job Droid Nerd

I received an email from AT&T asking me to rate my in store activation experience at a MI location that didn't happen.

At apple store playing with iPhone 4. I will give it up to them, the display is amazing and it is very zippy.

WTF? Does Apple just have a hard-on for shitty service providers?

T-Mobile iPhone will Change the Wireless Game - PCWorld Business Center

the problem is that all of the service providers are about equally shitty.

Not in my neck of the woods. With the updated bars on the iPhone courtesy of 4.0.1 I know get a much better picture of just how wretched AT&T's coverage is up here.

It's my world, which is to say that I could give two shits about how their coverage is anywhere else.

Although I'd argue that Boston is a better example, where last week AT&T could manage no more than Edge service that was so weak it couldn't find a reliable enough data signal to send a picture message. Or is Fenway Park to rural for you?

I didn't miss your point, I'm just being obstinate.

I do want to clarify one thing - I think it'd be great if Tmo got the iPhone. As referenced in the article I linked to Tmo's plans are generally about 30% cheaper than AT&T and some price competition between carriers would/should benefit consumers.

T-Mobile doesn't work terribly well in Cincinnati, if a couple of my friend's experiences are universal.

Tmobile has terrible coverage almost everywhere. That's why it's cheaper.

Fenway park is way out through the sticks for me, so definitely. you missed my point, though. saying that a carrier sucks because it doesn't work where you are and saying that another carrier is great because it does is too simplistic of a measurement, simply because the reverse is going to be true somewhere else. the carriers all suck. not so much because of their coverage, as no cost effective network is going to be great everywhere, but because of their policies.

Wrong. If it works well in Manhattan, it is good enough for the rest of you.

How does Tmo work on my island?

T-Mobile's supposed to be one of the best in Queens and very good in Manhattan. I think everything beats AT&T in Manhattan.

I think everything beats AT&T in Manhattan.

Good point--I'm better off shouting than using AT&T here.

That CNET test showed the T-Mobile service being pretty good in Manhattan.

We had t-Mobile BBs at work for a short time and they were okay in NYC but really sorry wherever I traveled.

I have still found nowhere in the area that I do not have fantastic AT&T service.

I already have a tmobile iphone ( ) and I had no problems with T-Mobile coverage in queens and in the city.

Got the new Defender Otterbox case for the iPhone. I guess it would do a good job of protecting the phone if dropped but I can't say I am a big fan of it or the iPad one that also came today. The sticky black outer rubber layer gives great grip but makes them a dust magnet and hard to remove from a pocket. I guess I might have to use the giant freakin holster that came with it if it gets too bad.

you have a lot of unread mail

you have a lot of unread mail

That's not a lot. Mine says 184.

you have a lot x 3.60784314 of unread mail

kinda defeats the purpose of having such a slim phone, to me.

But now you can use it as a bludgeoning weapon.

I have one coming my way and hopefully, I'll like it better.