HeadphoneAddict Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 Okay, I assumed that they were getting the ban-stick or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_maher Posted August 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 Okay, I assumed that they were getting the ban-stick or something. Nope, they finally realized that their App was terrible and that no one was using it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recstar24 Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 There's a YouTube app? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt Peanuts Posted August 15, 2012 Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 Got an email from AT&T about their new mobile legate plans - basically uimited talk/message plans wih shared data plan. I was hoping it'll save us money, but it's still cheaper for us to keep paying a shared family talk plan with unlimited messaging and 3 separate data plans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grawk Posted August 15, 2012 Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 That's where we are, but with 4 plans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blessingx Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 (edited) - Edited September 12, 2012 by blessingx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 the new dock connector is described as "all digital". if they know what they're talking about, thats the end of the analog line output. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blessingx Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 Related: The adapter has the following disclaimer: "Video and iPod Out not supported." If "iPod Out" means "analog" that could be another clue. Or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purk Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 (edited) Is the new connector applied to the new iPod touch too or just the iPhone 5? Edited September 12, 2012 by purk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebby Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 (edited) Is the new connector applied to the new iPod touch too or just the iPhone 5? New connector is applied across the board: C/O arstechnica Edited September 12, 2012 by Nebby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 Related: The adapter has the following disclaimer: "Video and iPod Out not supported." If "iPod Out" means "analog" that could be another clue. Or not. i asked a cable maker about it, and while they're still looking into the details, it looks like mini-mini cables from the headphone out will be pushed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purk Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 i asked a cable maker about it, and while they're still looking into the details, it looks like mini-mini cables from the headphone out will be pushed So we can say bye to a true audio line out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grawk Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 You have a true, variable line out in the headphone jack. Given that it went through an opamp either way it hardly seems to matter. I imagine we'll see more dac/amps going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purk Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 You have a true, variable line out in the headphone jack. Given that it went through an opamp either way it hardly seems to matter. I imagine we'll see more dac/amps going forward. I always find a true line out to sound better than one from the headphone output. This has been the case for all portable devices with a dedicate line out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grawk Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 I haven't noticed a difference on my last couple of iPhones. Perhaps it's level matching or confirmation bias? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepak Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 i asked a cable maker about it, and while they're still looking into the details, it looks like mini-mini cables from the headphone out will be pushed Headfi cable makers sweating bullets... this is pretty funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 I haven't noticed a difference on my last couple of iPhones. Perhaps it's level matching or confirmation bias? i would agree that it's most likely the same signal. but psychologically, going from the headphone jack is a problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purk Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 i would agree that it's most likely the same signal. but psychologically, going from the headphone jack is a problem I have not verified this on the iPhone or iPod touch but from my experience with my Sony Walkman and other MP3 players not apple, the line out always sound superior to headphone out using additional amplification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 (edited) on the later iphones/touch/nano its probably the same signal coming out of a highly integrated chip, with the digital volume control at max or set at some fixed point when using the line out Edited September 12, 2012 by justin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purk Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 (edited) The real question is do you have a portable amp in the work (or in the future) to take an advantage of the digital output from the new connector? Edited September 12, 2012 by purk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 The real question is do you have a portable amp in the work (or in the future) to take an advantage of the digital output from the new connector? Apple makes themselves difficult to work with and I can already see things shifting to Android with plug-n-play USB DACs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrion Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 For any unlimited AT&T users, you can keep your plan with the 5 but it will be throttled after 5gb and no FaceTime over cellular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwood Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 Gah! WTF, Apple's new iPods look like cheap Chinese knock offs of their cheap Chinese products. That Gloss white on fruity anodized aluminum looks terrible. Maybe it will look better in person. Of course the iPhone 5 looks nice and clean. Almost too generic. But they did patent the rounded rectangle, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 For any unlimited AT&T users, you can keep your plan with the 5 but it will be throttled after 5gb and no FaceTime over cellular. why would someone want to be an unlimited AT&T user Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepak Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 on the later iphones/touch/nano its probably the same signal coming out of a highly integrated chip, with the digital volume control at max or set at some fixed point when using the line out I can adjust the volume on my Nano using the line-out. So it could be the same as the HP out. But you are right the psychology of it is going to do some audiophiles' heads in (I don't want to double amplify with a headphone out to amp!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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