n_maher Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 I thought the external power supply was for the filaments and the high voltage supply was on the amp side. \ That makes two of us, and that's exactly what I asked him. Of course, he was pretty out of it (long days and nights of flights) so he may have just gotten it wrong. Sure would make a lot more sense to me that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvdunhill Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 nate, just to point something out... the Plitron transformers that Mikhail uses are potted / encapsulated, so what you see on top of the amp is the toroid itself, not a cover or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomana Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Well, I know nada, but I like the way it sounds. I'm emailing Mikhail tonight since he owes me tubes (sold him the Lector for both cash and tubes). I'll ask him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_maher Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 nate, just to point something out... the Plitron transformers that Mikhail uses are potted / encapsulated, so what you see on top of the amp is the toroid itself, not a cover or something. Ahhh, good to know. It almost has to be that he kept B+ on the amp then since I don't think the Plitron that he uses in the platinum has the capacity for the output tube heaters and using the 6528s shouldn't put any additional strain on B+ so it'd make little sense to me to separate it from the primary trafo. I'm now really curious to hear what he tells Vicki. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwood Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 I gotta give the BH-SE the prize for sexiest looking. The Menace is even bigger than I imagined! The BHSE is not even finished yet. I'm helping Justin to make it sexier... -Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sacd lover Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Ahhh, good to know. It almost has to be that he kept B+ on the amp then since I don't think the Plitron that he uses in the platinum has the capacity for the output tube heaters and using the 6528s shouldn't put any additional strain on B+ so it'd make little sense to me to separate it from the primary trafo. I'm now really curious to hear what he tells Vicki. I have my Extreme back for the outboard supply. I am almost sure he told me the round plitron would be for the B+ on my amp. 6528's and 6C33's are going to require heater current bordering on, or above, the round plitron transformers maximum. The Transformer in the power supply is, from my memory, something around 20 amps to handle any typical power tube. However, he could be doing the new Platinums differently. He has some sort of plitron that is not the round type that is higher amperage. Whenever he starts working on something he always seems to find a better way to do things. That latest two box Extremes I know of both had square covers. So, depending on the amp vintage he might have done the design either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvdunhill Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 I'd still like to see a picture of the critter. I'm finishing up an external heater supply that can supply 2 x 7.5A of DC filament current and has a 6.3 and 12.6v switch, so I can have switch these supplies independently. I'm tentatively calling it "the bench warmer", for obvious reasons. I considered working in an external pass device to go even higher, but I'm not sure if it's needed... so, the question for Earl and Nate: What tubes have you run across with the most demanding heater requirements? I'd appreciate a heads up so I can decide about the pass device someone soon. I'm most interested in tubes that have high current requirements that don't have center tapped heaters, since in this case I'd use the lower current option, since I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzziguy Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 I have my Extreme back for the outboard supply. I am almost sure he told me the round plitron would be for the B+ on my amp. 6528's and 6C33's are going to require heater current bordering on, or above, the round plitron transformers maximum. The Transformer in the power supply is, from my memory, something around 20 amps to handle any typical power tube. Once I get a new job, I'll reward myself by upgrading my Extreme to have an outboard PS too. I talked to Mikhail about it at CanJam. He suggested leaving the IEC on the Extreme. This means two power cords are needed, but has the advantage of not sending any AC from the outboard PS to the Extreme. Are you doing this too? I forgot to ask what is then powered by the Extreme PS and what is powered by the outboard PS. On an interest side note, Galina (Mikhail's wife) is now the business manager at SP. One now gets schedules, etc. from her. Mikhail said he was relieved to no longer have that responsibility. So when asking how long something will take, you have to ask Galina. Hopefully this will greatly improve SP's biggest problem. On the plus side, it can hardly make it worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvdunhill Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 This means two power cords are needed, but has the advantage of not sending any AC from the outboard PS to the Extreme. press Mikhail on what he means by this, as there is still AC I'd wager... not B+, but AC heaters nonetheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzziguy Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 press Mikhail on what he means by this, as there is still AC I'd wager... not B+, but AC heaters nonetheless. I can do that. However, the AC for the heaters could come from the PS on the Extreme, which still functions to some degree. Again, I forgot to ask him how the duties were split between the onboard and external power supplies. I'll be sure to ask before I order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvdunhill Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 so, the question for Earl and Nate: What tubes have you run across with the most demanding heater requirements? I'd appreciate a heads up so I can decide about the pass device someone soon. I'm most interested in tubes that have high current requirements that don't have center tapped heaters, since in this case I'd use the lower current option, since I can. bump. So, I got the following for 2 tubes Earl mentioned: 6c33 12.6V => 2.8A-3.6A 6.3V => 5.6A-7.2A 6528 6.3V => 5.0A nate, you got anything to top that for the menace? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_maher Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 nate, you got anything to top that for the menace? Nope, the hungriest that I've seen is the 6.3V/5.0A for the 6528 or 6336A, nothing else even comes close (for the Menace anyway). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvdunhill Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 cool. if you happen to get a dud or random extra tube, I'd be interested in using it to test my psu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grahame Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 It was great to meet all the best head cases at CJ08, but you missed out the post CJ08 food. e.g. Great Fish by the water Lobster Reuben! Best Burger in the World? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hungrych Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 You just made me so hungry.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Monkey Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 The Woo amps are really starting to grow on me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grahame Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 You just made me so hungry.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominatrice Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 The Woo amps are really starting to grow on me. Im LOVING the WA6 SE....its fantastic...one of these days im going to make the move =) however, must have balanced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFKMan23 Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Im LOVING the WA6 SE....its fantastic...one of these days im going to make the move =) however, must have balanced. So you bought one and currently have it in your possession? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominatrice Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 I didnt buy, i free him from his pleasant slumber (inside a box) =) but i have one in my possession and listing to it as we speak... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fierce_freak Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Awesome, I definitely look forward to more impressions on this amp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominatrice Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 extremely nice sound, very dynamic, sound is HUGE..its got some punch thats for sure. Its transparent, however has a warm-lush type sound that seems less harsh on the ears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltron Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 I just has some pretty decent fish and chips but I want a lobster rueben NOW!!! Nice pics Grahame. I guess you and Jo had a great time hanging in SoFla; at least you ate well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ojnihs Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 lobster reuben? color me interested... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grahame Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 I just has some pretty decent fish and chips but I want a lobster rueben NOW!!! Nice pics Grahame. I guess you and Jo had a great time hanging in SoFla; at least you ate well. Can Jam was a blast, and thanks to some prior research on chowhound we ate well without breaking the bank. As for the lobster reuben, be careful what you wish for ... You can order one from the source ... http://store.keysfisheries.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=9 and they ship by FedEx Priority Overnight ... http://keysfisheries.com/shipping.html And then finish off with a (Key Lime) pie on a stick! http://www.blondgiraffe.com/piepop.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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