This is why the new woodies are buttonless, John wanted to use the centers for keychains

les garten decided the engraving wasn't deep enough in the first 20, and made a HUGE stink about it

I would rather get not so great engraving vs. misspelling. At least I'm basically at the end of the line.

I have one of the first 20 and there's nothing wrong with the engraving.

I have one of the first 20 and there's nothing wrong with the engraving.

Yeah, I didn't have a problem with that either. Mine do smell like arugula, though.

Who is this les garten guy? Is he important?

Who is this les garten guy? Is he important?

Beyond being a decent buyer/seller (yeah I've done a transaction with him), he's generally a douche-nozzle in the discussion forums who loves to stir up controversy whenever possible. Sometimes it is justified *cough amphora cough*, other times, not so much.

Speculating, but maybe that's the reason it took so long to ship the second batch too?

Speculating, but maybe that's the reason it took so long to ship the second batch too?

When did the 1st one ship? I missed it.

Well first one is the batch distributed at Canjam, no?

No, there was another batch between the CanJam ones and the ones that shipped on the 2nd of July, right? If not, that means I am in the batch of the mispelled ones, since I get mine this week.

No the F1 batch is the first batch besides the 24 we picked up at CanJam.

Hi zippy, could you please elaborate, how does the HF-2 compare to the W5000?

The HF-2 and W5000 are completely different headphones.

The HF-2 are open headphones with a good punchy bass, well balanced presentation, smaller headstage. They are definitely more forward sounding than the W5000. To me they are more fun to listen to and sound great with some classic rock.

The W5000 are closed and very comfortable to wear, but can have some fit issues depending upon the size of your head. The W5000 are a bit lacking in the bass, so the mids and highs tend to stand out more. The detail retreival is great and work well with classical, some jazz and female vocals.

I like them both, but they sound very different.

This is why the new woodies are buttonless, John wanted to use the centers for keychains

I found the Head-F1 error kinda charming, but could understand others being bothered. This I'd have a hard time dismissing.

Beyond being a decent buyer/seller (yeah I've done a transaction with him), he's generally a douche-nozzle in the discussion forums who loves to stir up controversy whenever possible. Sometimes it is justified *cough amphora cough*, other times, not so much.

I had a poor experience with him trying to do a transaction / have him on ignore I believe.

I found the Head-F1 error kinda charming, but could understand others being bothered. This I'd have a hard time dismissing.

Yeah, that pic is seriously messed up.

The HF-2 and W5000...

Having owned a pair of W5000 in the past, this comparison was quite enlightening. Especially the aspect of HF-2 being more fun - sounds like good times. Thanks!

I found the Head-F1 error kinda charming, but could understand others being bothered. This I'd have a hard time dismissing.

That was pretty much my take on it...the typo I could live with and it'd probably grow on me, but the marks are too much. I already emailed Todd, so we'll see what happens.

Let's blame Les. Isn't he the one who made the stink about engraving in the first place? Though a bit far-fetched, it's still not out of line to consider Grado went with another engraver, possibly to address the concerns of those posting at that time, and maybe grabbing a lower bid while exploring options, thinking win-win. I personally think it's fucked up that they just sent them out, hoping for the best, like no one would notice.

It's my fault! I was told that another engraver was engaged per Todd. I will say that the new lettering looks good, when it's not misspelled, and all smudges are absent, and the glue's wiped off. For a turned down set of 325s, they look great! The valuable one's, and the most rare, will be the last fifty that are done right. It will be interesting to see how many versions there are finally. Now, we're working on three.

Seriously? That stinks. I wish they just stuck with the first engraver. The ones at CanJam looked very nice.

Shut the fuck up les

Now THAT is a quality first post!

Welcome to Head-Case.

Not unless he backs his trash talk up with something to contribute.

Directed at anyone else? I'd agree. Directed at a stirrer-of-shit? Appropriate.

Most people here fit that bill. I'd rather have les than someone who so far has done nothing but call someone else out.