n_maher Posted July 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 We'll attempt to keep it pretty clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knuckledragger Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Nate, I hadn't noticed your new avatar... nice, Dad! x2. I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_maher Posted July 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 all credit goes to justin for the new avatar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzziguy Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Nice job Justin and nice avatar choice Nate! I've decided to open my Extreme to look for damage, etc. I'll report back, and take and post pics no matter what I find. Could somebody refresh my memory on the size of hex wrench that is needed to remove the screws? I vaguely remember reading the information in an HF thread once and will search for the thread. However, if somebody knows it off-hand, I'd appreciate the time saver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knuckledragger Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 That Justin is one multi-talented fella. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 That Justin is one multi-talented fella. I didn't create the International Symbol for Breastfeeding, I only suggested it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knuckledragger Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 I didn't create the International Symbol for Breastfeeding, I only suggested it Next thing you're going to tell me someone else designs your amps. ... I'll get my coat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepak Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 I didn't create the International Symbol for Breastfeeding, I only suggested it Holy shit. Comedy platinum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spritzer Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Good thing this has been moved out of the lockup. When it's working, it sounds pretty fucking good. I don't doubt that as I love my Stax SRA-3S amp which is a pretty shitty design yet sounds great. Powerful? No. Transparent? Nope, but works wonders on the limited ability of the early Stax phones creating a highly synergistic combo. I also hope that we can keep it civil and not have it turn into a lynching (i.e calling something a joke is a little childish, but hey everyone is entitled to their opinion). I always act like a child so it is to be expected. Just look at the rate of which I buy and sell headphones... Me like toys!!!! Why I called it a joke are the outrageous claims and the price level for the ES amps. It was supposed to be a better design then the BH when it obviously isn't. It's basically this design which Stax published in the Japanese SR-3 instructions manual back in 1969. It has been upgraded but charging 4.5k$ for this is nuts based on complexity, parts used and the outstanding workmanship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jinp6301 Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 I didn't create the International Symbol for Breastfeeding, I only suggested it justin is competing against pj for best comedic material in HC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_maher Posted July 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Holy shit. Comedy platinum. I agreed that it brought the funny so I used it, knowing full well what it's real meaning is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzziguy Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 I'm trying to figure out from what the baby is breast feeding. There is nothing to suggest even the hint of breasts. In fact, the figure looks like a male. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grawk Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 it's nate on hormones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_maher Posted July 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 it's nate on hormones Yeah, liger hormones! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morphsci Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 I always act like a child so it is to be expected. Just look at the rate of which I buy and sell headphones... Me like toys!!!! Me too, just giving you some shit. Why I called it a joke are the outrageous claims and the price level for the ES amps. It was supposed to be a better design then the BH when it obviously isn't. It's basically this design which Stax published in the Japanese SR-3 instructions manual back in 1969. It has been upgraded but charging 4.5k$ for this is nuts based on complexity, parts used and the outstanding workmanship. Well I certainly won't dispute the circuit design claims of either yourself or Kevin. As far as the prices charged, that is somewhat outside of design. At the time I ordered mine there was not really anything to compete with it in current production. A different case now. Plus as you stated in response to Dusty, it's all about how it sounds. I intend to find out how it sounds compared to a BHSE as soon as possible. I also intend to do a comparative review, which is one of the reasons I am taking internal pictures of the ES-1. After my comparison, which is likely to take some time I will likely sell one of the amps or else I will have one hell of an office rig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spritzer Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Me too, just giving you some shit. I know, I know... I need to buy something new as there are 0 packages on their way to me now. Well I certainly won't dispute the circuit design claims of either yourself or Kevin. As far as the prices charged, that is somewhat outside of design. At the time I ordered mine there was not really anything to compete with it in current production. A different case now. Plus as you stated in response to Dusty, it's all about how it sounds. I intend to find out how it sounds compared to a BHSE as soon as possible. I also intend to do a comparative review, which is one of the reasons I am taking internal pictures of the ES-1. After my comparison, which is likely to take some time I will likely sell one of the amps or else I will have one hell of an office rig. The sound is all that matters but despite the normal audiophile thinking it is directly connected to the design. The SR-007mk2/A sounds compromised as Stax did something stupid with the design but that doesn't mean it isn't one of the best headphones ever created. Same goes for amps and everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltron Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 The sound is all that matters but despite the normal audiophile thinking it is directly connected to the design. The SR-007mk2/A sounds compromised as Stax did something stupid with the design but that doesn't mean it isn't one of the best headphones ever created. Same goes for amps and everything else. Last I recall, you had not heard a SinglePower electrostatic amp so how do you know what it sounds like? Based solely on looking at pics of the internals? There are many issues here, but your overreaching claims about what is and is not worth X dollars has no relevance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvdunhill Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 There are many issues here, but your overreaching claims about what is and is not worth X dollars has no relevance. really? so if I sold an amp for $100,000 that cost me $2,000 to make, you don't think this implies anything about the purveyor of such an establishment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grawk Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 If no one else could make it cheaper and take the market from you, more power to you. There's an art to pricing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spritzer Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Last I recall, you had not heard a SinglePower electrostatic amp so how do you know what it sounds like? Based solely on looking at pics of the internals? There are many issues here, but your overreaching claims about what is and is not worth X dollars has no relevance. I have not heard one so I was only commenting on the design. If you feel like the price you paid for a SP amp is fair than good for you but most of the customers don't know what's on the inside of their amps and how much it costs to make one. Value is always in the eye of the beholder and my view may be a little odd as to me a 100k Lamm amp is a rip off of epic proportions while a 100k Kondo amp isn't with a lot of things hand made such as the resistors and caps. Design matters as the sound can be altered dramatically with a few component changes. really? so if I sold an amp for $100,000 that cost me $2,000 to make, you don't think this implies anything about the purveyor of such an establishment? My point exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archosman Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 ...There's an art to pricing. And there's an art to fucking over too... Still waiting for someone to post the old SP pics where it looks like everything was clumped together and shoved into a chassis. Ah... how I remember the amp wars from way back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin gilmore Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 I know what an es-1 sounds like because i have built the identical circuit with the same output tubes as the BH. It can be made to sound very good, but has a different presentation than the BHSE. If i was going to build an es-1 it would have fully regulated high voltage supplies and a servo for the output tubes to keep the bias stable without having to measure and mess with it. It would not be infinitely adjustable for every single kind of input tube or output tube as this is 99% the cause of all the trouble. aaron is not having a lot of luck getting people to publicly say over there what they have paid and what they are owed, so unless a lot of people come forward, this will just sink back under the noise level till things get really nasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrion Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 If people don't want to make public statements then perhaps they should send Aaron a pm. He could at least come up with a number that could be posted without the need for naming those that provided the information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin gilmore Posted July 15, 2008 Report Share Posted July 15, 2008 Good idea. I have a better one. Jude needs to call mikhail and straighten this out. It would not be the first time. If jude does not hear what he wants to hear, then jude can take the appropriate action. I don't think that other people should be repairing mikhail's mistakes. But it may get to that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrion Posted July 15, 2008 Report Share Posted July 15, 2008 Good idea. I have a better one. Jude needs to call mikhail and straighten this out. It would not be the first time. If jude does not hear what he wants to hear, then jude can take the appropriate action. I don't think that other people should be repairing mikhail's mistakes. But it may get to that point. I don't think anyone can repair Mikhails mistakes other than Mikhail. However, it might help for some of those with money at stake to try to meet and work through the issues so this doesn't get to a point where Mikhal takes action to protect himself which in turns could end up screwing those with significant money at stake. Just a suggestion. I don't pretend to have all the answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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