Dreadhead Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 Or: http://www.carbontrikes.com/eng/index.html Because it's carbon biatch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pars Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 Sorry about the crash and bone break Justin! I hope you heal quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPI Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 Finally paid for my Sebring Bike thing entrance. Are the Florida people still planning to be there? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_maher Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 So I decided to ignore the thermometer this morning and ride to work. I got up at 5:30, had a quick banana and watched the tempterature drop as I got ready to go, WTF? Anyway, it was 20.1F when I left the house and I had a slight headwind the whole way so this afternoon's ride should be a good 25 degrees warmer and holds the promise of a slight tail wind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadhead Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 On the Calfee? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrion Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 Finally paid for my Sebring Bike thing entrance. Are the Florida people still planning to be there? I will be there as will Raffy, Jp and Vicki. How much riding I do is another story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_maher Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 On the Calfee? Yup. I mounted the headlight and taillight last night. It felt good. Slow, but good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadhead Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 Awesome! I'm trying to decide if I should take a day (or half day) off on Friday and go for a long ride because I will not be getting in rides for a few weeks due to being a single parent. The biggest bummer is that my wife has to head to trial on my birthday so I will not even get out then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grawk Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 you should look into neighborhood girl scouts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadhead Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 We have a neighbor who babysits for us regularly and is actually watching them on Friday night so we can go out for my birthday but she's in school and doing homework every weeknight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 Surgery thursday for titanium plate Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grahame Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 Do they let you see the quality of the machining and finish beforehand? Good luck with the surgery and a prompt recovery! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 Better than i can get, but i cant charge $500 for a knob Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torpedo Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 Surgery thursday for titanium plate Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Not bad, pretty standard procedure which hopefully will have an excellent outcome, with way less hassle and quicker recovery than the old fashioned 8 shape bandage. Best wishes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 Not bad, pretty standard procedure which hopefully will have an excellent outcome, with way less hassle and quicker recovery than the old fashioned 8 shape bandage. Best wishes! I think in the u.s. only about 5% of closed clavicle fractures get the surgery. But i dont know if thats because with our system people wont/cant pay the cost of the surgery. It would heal without it, its just displaced about 15mm. I dont want to lose strength or range of motion or be lopsided or take forever to heal Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grahame Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 Better than i can get, but i cant charge $500 for a knob You're not trying hard enough Medical Grade Ti Knob option, only $500? Bargain! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torpedo Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 I think in the u.s. only about 5% of closed clavicle fractures get the surgery. But i dont know if thats because with our system people wont/cant pay the cost of the surgery. It would heal without it, its just displaced about 15mm. I dont want to lose strength or range of motion or be lopsided or take forever to heal Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Here it isn't the most common method for closed, not much displaced fractures either. With "standard procedure" I meant that it's an easy intervention for any qualified traumatologist. Even myself not being one of them would do it The good part is that your recovery will be much faster and functional results, probably better. The pseudarthrosis risk is much reduced. The only higher risk is that of infection, but still it is an acceptable one considering all the expectable benefits of the intervention. Were I in your situation, I'd rather be operated too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 What about nerve damage? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torpedo Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 Improbable. The truly important nerves are pretty far away. Just a sensitive brach lays near, and taking the normal precautions, would be hardly involved in the healing fracture callus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 tried to see if i could find the spot on the trail in the video that i sucked at http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=6URPaewpYYE#t=171 i think it's exactly 3:02 here when you hear the suspension compress, then flew off to the right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jp11801 Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Justin good luck with the surgery and hope for s speedy recovery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 decided to put off that surgery. i needed to get more opinions. went to another guy, he also said to get surgery as it may not heal without it, but said he would not use the titanium plate but instead use this rod inside the hole in the bone which he said he invented/helped invent http://sonomaorthopedics.com/products/clavicle-fracture-solutions/ requires smaller incision to install, and can also be removed later the same way. so no issues with people complaining about the plate causing irritation on their skin or pain when something touches it. still need to read some more about it he said my only non-surgical option is to wear the figure 8 brace and see if it moves into a position where it could heal, so i've got the brace and am going back in a week for an x-ray. but it seemed like he was just satisfying my need to try the brace as he would put me on the schedule for surgery next friday anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torpedo Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Interesting. I really don't see how he can put that inside the bone marrow using a smaller incision, since to place it he'll need to expose the whole fracture trace, and being able to manipulate the bone extremes. That can be accomplished by using smaller incisions, but I don't really see the advantage. Probably more evident if the skin is damaged for an open fracture, which is not your case. A plate with a few screws seems simpler to place and if there's any pain or problems after the fracture heals, it can be removed too. It's true that his invention doesn't lay directly under the skin, and that can be a huge advantage in some cases, specially skinny people. But it's not less true that it asks for further bone manipulation. If the figure 8 bandage manages to get a good fracture alignment and you feel comfortable wearing it, it's the least aggressive solution, but if the fragments don't really get in touch or are not aligned, you'd be better served with the surgery. Also recovery times are much faster. Moto GP riders, who get clavicle fractures almost every season, can ride again within days after the surgery. This season Jorge Lorenzo rode his bike for a race just about 36 hours after the surgery. Not that it's a sensible practice, but gives you an idea on how fast you'll be able to get back to your normal life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 yeah he said there would be 2 small incisions rather than 1 long incision - one to insert it and one for manipulating the bones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torpedo Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Justin, the system makes sense and it's possible it requires smaller incisions and perhaps less manipulation. I hadn't heard of it before, and I don't think this is a standard procedure over here, so don't have any first or reliable second hand references. IMO it mostly depends on how confident you feel about this surgeon, and how much a surgery scares you. I've undergone surgery several times, so it doesn't scare me at all, but undoubtedly the least risky, besides the pseudarthrosis risk and longer recovery time, is the bandage. Take your time to think about it, after all it's you who'll have to bear with any outcome this has. In the end, whatever you decide will be OK and you'll have to make the most of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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