Dusty Chalk Posted June 23 Report Posted June 23 19 minutes ago, mikeymad said: This works too: ======================= CONCLUSION ======================= Ultimately, the question comes down to regime change in Iran [the USA]. Short of that, Iran [Trump] will renew its [his] quest for nuclear weapons [against citizens] -- though it will take years and still won't work. Achieving regime change in Iran [the USA] is a tall order, however. Frankly, it is beyond reach in military terms. Oof. Good point. 1 Quote
Knuckledragger Posted June 23 Author Report Posted June 23 Iran says it launched attack on US forces at Qatar’s Al Udeid Air Base. Quote
blessingx Posted June 23 Report Posted June 23 No need to worry! Trump: “CONGRATULATIONS TO EVERYONE! It has been fully agreed by and between Israel and Iran that there will be a Complete and Total CEASEFIRE (in approximately 6 hours from now, when Israel and Iran have wound down and completed their in progress, final missions!), for 12 hours, at which point the War will be considered, ENDED! Officially, Iran will start the CEASEFIRE and, upon the 12th Hour, Israel will start the CEASEFIRE and, upon the 24th Hour, an Official END to THE 12 DAY WAR will be saluted by the World. During each CEASEFIRE, the other side will remain PEACEFUL and RESPECTFUL. On the assumption that everything works as it should, which it will, I would like to congratulate both Countries, Israel and Iran, on having the Stamina, Courage, and Intelligence to end, what should be called, “THE 12 DAY WAR.” This is a War that could have gone on for years, and destroyed the entire Middle East, but it didn’t, and never will! God bless Israel, God bless Iran, God bless the Middle East, God bless the United States of America, and GOD BLESS THE WORLD!” Quote
Grahame Posted June 24 Report Posted June 24 So presidential. Bonus round: Define article 5 ahead of the NATO summit. 1 Quote
Hopstretch Posted June 24 Report Posted June 24 Well, he is definitely an authority on people who don't know what the fuck they are doing. 4 1 1 Quote
blessingx Posted June 24 Report Posted June 24 Strike Set Back Iran’s Nuclear Program by Only a Few Months, U.S. Report Says Classified findings indicate that the attack sealed off the entrances to two facilities but did not collapse their underground buildings. Karoline Leavitt, a White House spokeswoman: “The leaking of this alleged assessment is a clear attempt to demean President Trump, and discredit the brave fighter pilots who conducted a perfectly executed mission to obliterate Iran’s nuclear program,” she said in a statement. “Everyone knows what happens when you drop 14 30,000-pound bombs perfectly on their targets: total obliteration.” https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/24/us/politics/iran-nuclear-sites.html?unlocked_article_code=1.RU8.H7dG.HU9ojgiGxKUK&smid=url-share (Gift article) 1 Quote
Grahame Posted June 24 Report Posted June 24 (edited) At least Mark Rutte (NATO Secretary General) can turn the (insincere? , surely not) flattery up to 11. "‘Dear Donald.’ Trump posts fawning private text from NATO chief on social media" https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/114738606142462442 https://apnews.com/article/trump-rutte-text-message-nato-signal-6263810ac3ca77a5bf7366499f51c772 Maybe Donald will like NATO now? Edited June 24 by Grahame 1 Quote
Pars Posted June 25 Report Posted June 25 22 hours ago, blessingx said: Strike Set Back Iran’s Nuclear Program by Only a Few Months, U.S. Report Says Classified findings indicate that the attack sealed off the entrances to two facilities but did not collapse their underground buildings. Karoline Leavitt, a White House spokeswoman: “The leaking of this alleged assessment is a clear attempt to demean President Trump, and discredit the brave fighter pilots who conducted a perfectly executed mission to obliterate Iran’s nuclear program,” she said in a statement. “Everyone knows what happens when you drop 14 30,000-pound bombs perfectly on their targets: total obliteration.” https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/24/us/politics/iran-nuclear-sites.html?unlocked_article_code=1.RU8.H7dG.HU9ojgiGxKUK&smid=url-share (Gift article) I'm sure the B2 pilots would be tickled to know they were flying fighters... 2 Quote
Grahame Posted June 27 Report Posted June 27 Interesting what historical satellite imagery reveals ... 1 Quote
ktm Posted June 29 Report Posted June 29 Looks like conventional armies are dead. Between Ukraine and Isreal's tactics, tanks have become deathtraps. Drones,shoulder fired weapons, and sneaky tricks seem to be the winning move. $$$ stuff like ships,aircraft and armor no longer mean success. If you can knock out a multimillion dollar aircraft or tank with a $50,000 shoulder weapon or a couple thousand dollar drone, all those big ticket defense contracts become worthless. The USMC has already made a big Change by phasing out tanks. Hard to say if the US army will follow suite. The same type of attack used to take out Iranian leaders and air defenses can be used against any country including ours. I'm pretty sure it's keeping people In high places awake at night. 1 Quote
Knuckledragger Posted July 4 Author Report Posted July 4 Ukraine accuses Putin of humiliating Trump with devastating attack on Kyiv. Russia launches record number of drones and ballistic missiles in seven-hour assault shortly after its leader spoke to US president. 3 Quote
Torpedo Posted July 5 Report Posted July 5 Ukraine is now on their own if Trump cuts missiles delivery. Game over. 1 Quote
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