grawk Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 It takes a really long time to cause an established oak tree to die from lack of water. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shellylh Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 I hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidbasement Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Oak trees have deep taproots as an adaptation to drought. At least the species we have here does - YMMV I guess.I just voted in our federal election. I don't care who wins, as long as our current governing party loses (opinion polls have been looking favourable). All the opposition parties are promising democratic reform, which would be outstanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grahame Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 I trust you were not unduly influenced by John Oliver ... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironbut Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 Just checked my 401k for the first time since June (I took a cash distribution then).I kind of peered with one eye at my account in fear of what it might look like.For the year, it's down .16%. So after the roller coaster ride, the difference is just noticeable.Whew! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absorbine_Sr Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 You're a braver man than I am Steve. Too scared to look. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironbut Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 Yup, pretty scary Mike!Predictably, once I knew that I realized that my account was almost unchanged, I pulled out my Visa card and went to town!I guess I am a good American? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadphoneAddict Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 (edited) Just checked my 401k for the first time since June (I took a cash distribution then).I kind of peered with one eye at my account in fear of what it might look like.For the year, it's down .16%. So after the roller coaster ride, the difference is just noticeable.Whew!We're down about 3-4% still... Edited October 20, 2015 by HeadphoneAddict Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grawk Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 My understanding is over the last 10 years, no managed fund has out performed the S&P 500 after fees are considered. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grawk Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 That may or may not be true. Even if true, that's only useful if you had no need to take a disbursement over that time period. Many managed funds were certainly outperforming it during the great recession. My mother, for instance, lost about 12% 2007-2009. The S&P lost over 50% of its value during that period. She needed to take some disbursements during that time. Having non-index funds was a good idea for her, then.And I wasn't necessarily even talking about managed funds, in the traditional sense, when I talked about diverse investing strategies. Having money split between index funds and bonds in various countries can make a big difference. I am not saying don't diversify, just that managed funds are almost always a bad deal. I have a combination of S&P and whole market funds, plus emerging markets. I have 20+ years until retirement. If I were within 5 years of retirement, it would be almost entirely government bonds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grawk Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 even not covering inflation, I wouldn't invest money I need in the short term in the stock market. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvdunhill Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 I would agree Reks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Chalk Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 I'm going to die before I retire, so I should probably only put in to get my matching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aura Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 Neighborhood was insanity last night. Apartment three buildings to our west caught fire [possibly via explosion] and the whole building engulfed pretty quick. Took all night for fire dpt to put it out. WAY too close for comfort. Not my picture, but you get the idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skullguise Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 Whoa....glad you are OK, and glad to hear no injuries overall..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torpedo Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 Whoa....glad you are OK, and glad to hear no injuries overall.....This. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironbut Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 Fires are some scary shit!Glad it didn't reach you Bryan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_maher Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 As others have said, glad you're ok Bryan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grahame Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 Especially with all that high proof fuel around Glad you are OK 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidbasement Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 Whoa. As others have said, glad you're okay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aimless1 Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 (edited) Bryan, were the smores good?Glad you and Allison are okay .... and no injuries. Edited October 21, 2015 by Aimless1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pars Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 Glad you and Allison are OK Bryan! Scary shit, especially when it is that close! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aura Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 Thanks everyone. At first I thought this wasn't a big deal and then the more I read into it (5-alarm, 11 different towns sent people) I feel more and more lucky. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvlgato Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 All over the local news here. So glad you guys are ok! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shellylh Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 Whoa....glad you are OK, and glad to hear no injuries overall.....This!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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